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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

http://lawcha.org/wordpress/2015/12/07/well-just-live-within-our-means-then-a-reaction-to-uw-madison-graduate-school-administrations-proposal-to-restructure-graduate-employee-pay/


 

Here's an idea: graduate in less than eight fucking years.  Also, how the hell have you only taught 500 students in eight years when the University of Wisconsin has more than 40,000 students at any given time?

...if I had to do my Ph.D. all over again, I'd pick a major with a nice payout - like history. /s

I also don't get when graduate students bitch about how the man is driving them into poverty. My group and my friends all made it through grad school in 5 years or less with legitimate degrees, lived well within our means on our stipends and fellowships. None of us graduated with debt.

The broken car thing is when you know you're scraping the bottom of the excuses barrel.

https://grad.wisc.edu/studentfunding/types

A 50% RA makes >$21k a year at UW Madison. I was a 50% RA and made about about $16k a year when I graduated in '12. Even after taxes and the part of the tuition she has to pay, she'd be making ~$1400 a month. Give me a break if you can't get by on that after splitting expenses with your partner.

I'm not a financial advisor - but how about $400 for food/dining, $100 for utilities (go ahead, it's $200 split so go for gigabit internet and HBO), $600 for rent ($1200 if truly split), $300 a month for a new Kia Optima leased + gas + insurance. Problem solved. God knows that'd be better than how I lived for 4.5 years.
post #4892 of 5454
Anyone think the man dumps her for completely insulting him in her little article or is he a, "I need feminism because..." type of guy?
post #4893 of 5454
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

http://lawcha.org/wordpress/2015/12/07/well-just-live-within-our-means-then-a-reaction-to-uw-madison-graduate-school-administrations-proposal-to-restructure-graduate-employee-pay/
Here's an idea: graduate in less than eight fucking years.  Also, how the hell have you only taught 500 students in eight years when the University of Wisconsin has more than 40,000 students at any given time?

Those kind of timelines are pretty common in humanities. I'm not entirely sure why, they never seem to be in much of a hurry to graduate. The schools certainly encourage it, the older students are better teachers but don't cost any more than the brand new ones.

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I also don't get when graduate students bitch about how the man is driving them into poverty. My group and my friends all made it through grad school in 5 years or less with legitimate degrees, lived well within our means on our stipends and fellowships. None of us graduated with debt.

Yeah, my wife and I both made ~$22k while in grad school and it was fine. The only people I knew who complained about money were the ones who thought they could go lease a BMW or buy a house on their stipend.

She's going to have fun when she graduates and has to do the adjunct game.

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Where does this apathy come from? Why would people swallow a decrease in compensation for their hard work, when they could protest unfair actions on the part of their employers? Already living below the poverty line, I cannot fathom accepting this affront to my already overworked body and expended brain. Our contract may say that we work twenty hours a week but we labor for far more. So, why should we work harder; why should we live with less and less? Who came up with this awful idea of an unbearable American 'work ethic'?

You'd think from all her talk that she has an actual job, instead of having the luxury of sorta-teaching while studying a subject that certainly isn't bringing big money into the university. It's not a conservative conspiracy that the public doesn't want to finance young people to live comfortably for 7-10 years while studying whatever subject suits their fancy.

There are way too many PhD students these days in general, even in STEM. The market is saturated, a lot of extremely frivolous research is being done to fulfill degree requirements, and it's expensive. Why is that a labor issue? Prove your value. Common people working real jobs, producing things, might want to know why they should be forking over $45k/year for your stipend and overhead for you to study 14th German philosophy as it relates to Marxist ideals and their application to the Black Lives Matters movement.

And I say that as someone working for the government with a publicly financed PhD.
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...if I had to do my Ph.D. all over again, I'd pick a major with a nice payout - like history. /s

I also don't get when graduate students bitch about how the man is driving them into poverty. My group and my friends all made it through grad school in 5 years or less with legitimate degrees, lived well within our means on our stipends and fellowships. None of us graduated with debt.

The broken car thing is when you know you're scraping the bottom of the excuses barrel.

https://grad.wisc.edu/studentfunding/types

A 50% RA makes >$21k a year at UW Madison. I was a 50% RA and made about about $16k a year when I graduated in '12. Even after taxes and the part of the tuition she has to pay, she'd be making ~$1400 a month. Give me a break if you can't get by on that after splitting expenses with your partner.

I'm not a financial advisor - but how about $400 for food/dining, $100 for utilities (go ahead, it's $200 split so go for gigabit internet and HBO), $600 for rent ($1200 if truly split), $300 a month for a new Kia Optima leased + gas + insurance. Problem solved. God knows that'd be better than how I lived for 4.5 years.

 

Why does someone even need a car in Madison?  It is a very walkable city.  I survived on a lot less there.

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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post


Those kind of timelines are pretty common in humanities. I'm not entirely sure why, they never seem to be in much of a hurry to graduate. The schools certainly encourage it, the older students are better teachers but don't cost any more than the brand new ones.

 

Because they don't have any job prospects that pay better when they graduate?  At least that would be the traditional economic professor view.

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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Because they don't have any job prospects that pay better when they graduate?  At least that would be the traditional economic professor view.

It might just be my STEM bias, but that's pretty much what I figured. Also, they get to basically do their dream job in grad school, farting around teaching and studying stuff. Poverty aside, of course, but that's an expected part of the humanity experience.

Everybody I knew in STEM was miserable and wanted to get the hell out. You could do basically the same thing after graduation for more money and with less misery. Not the case for the humanity types.
post #4896 of 5454
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Why does someone even need a car in Madison?  It is a very walkable city.  I survived on a lot less there.

Because they don't have any job prospects that pay better when they graduate?  At least that would be the traditional economic professor view.

I gave her the benefit of the doubt since she bitched about her Civic. Pretty much all of my allocations for the categories are obviously obscenely excessive for someone still in college. You could easily cut every category, except rent in half and drop the car for a bicycle. I got through undergrad with a bicycle and grad school with a 10 year old Sentra.

Also +1 to piob's comment about the BF.
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It's also not like this shit is new. When I first left home I lived in a small apartment building. One of the renters was in his early 30s and a Ph.D. in Philosophy candidate. No car, dressed like a schmuck, and would nurse a "shell" of draft beer for an hour at the pub as he didn't have enough money to buy too many. We're talking 88 or 89 here and in the socialist utopia of Canada so we can't blame it on outrageous tuition, Bush, or even Harper.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

...I was talking about lawyerdad...

I missed this until today. Well played.
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My FB feed is being shit up by liberal lawyer and law-adjacent friends and former colleagues cranking up the Harry Reid outrage meter over Scalia supposedly saying all blacks should ride the short bus to special ed colleges. I happen to think Scalia's intellectually dishonest and more or less a shitbag professionally and personally, but the oral argument excerpt I've seen quoted doesn't remotely say what everyone's chastising Fat Nino for supposedly saying. It's not like there's any shortage of obnoxious shit he's said that we could legitimately dump on him for.
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

My FB feed is being shit up by liberal lawyer and law-adjacent friends and former colleagues cranking up the Harry Reid outrage meter over Scalia supposedly saying all blacks should ride the short bus to special ed colleges. I happen to think Scalia's intellectually dishonest and more or less a shitbag professionally and personally, but the oral argument excerpt I've seen quoted doesn't remotely say what everyone's chastising Fat Nino for supposedly saying. It's not like there's any shortage of obnoxious shit he's said that we could legitimately dump on him for.

 

I attended a lecture he gave recently.  Love him or hate him it was entertaining. 

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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

I attended a lecture he gave recently.  Love him or hate him it was entertaining. 

Agreed. I've heard him speak several times. He's very clever and witty.
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He's on the wrong side of history, so even if he didn't really say anything offensive, he deserves what he's getting.
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It's an interesting observation that I didn't completely understand the first time I heard it. The beneficiaries of AA aren't necessarily failing out, they're getting channeled into easier fields of study that, perhaps not coincidentally, are indoctrination programs for social justice warriors and the racial grievance industry.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

It's an interesting observation that I didn't completely understand the first time I heard it. The beneficiaries of AA aren't necessarily failing out, they're getting channeled into easier fields of study that, perhaps not coincidentally, are indoctrination programs for social justice warriors and the racial grievance industry.

Further, I think that in context, his comment clearly referred specifically to that subset of black students whose previous grades and test scores were not strong enough to get them into UT (or wherever) but for affirmative action. As such, his hypothetical fits pretty squarely within the contours of the usual AA arguments. It's a stretch, at best, to read it as saying that black students should go to less challenging schools because they're generally less bright than white students.
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He's on the wrong side of history, so even if he didn't really say anything offensive, he deserves what he's getting.

Plus he's getting to be pre-surgery Chris Christie fat, which we all know is the one group of people we're still allowed to be prejudiced against. As long as they're men.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

He's on the wrong side of history, so even if he didn't really say anything offensive, he deserves what he's getting.


Kafka?

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