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Everybody thinks everyone else cares too much. The real problem is an epidemic of ego-centricity.

No one mature enough to consider themselves a rational adult actually cares.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Plenty of gems from Why Judging People for Buying Unhealthy Food Is Classist

Apparently people judge others for not eating "healthy." I'm sure there is some privilege I now know I need to check, but I need help from the CESpool to figure it out.
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Why Lower-Income People Don’t Buy Fresh, Whole Food

Simply put, fast food is frequently more cost-effective for low-income people.

How many times have I dispelled that line here?
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Getting to grocery stores, even, can be a challenge. Many low-income workers have more than one job or work a job with hours that make getting to a grocery store when it’s open impossible.

Might have been you or 'Turk but someone posted some strong data showing, that in reality, the poor work the least number of hours on average in our society.
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This part tells me all I need to know about the person who wrote that, the way its subjects view food, and to whom it's written:
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There are about three apples to a pound, so if you wanted to buy your two kids an apple for each day of the week, you would spend $5.80 just on an afternoon snack for your kids. And let’s keep in mind that apples are relatively low-calorie, which means they aren’t very filling.

Six bucks doesn’t seem like much to someone with a middle class salary, but when you’re working with a weekly budget of under $700 per week for everything you need, including car repairs, gas money, winter clothing for constantly growing children, toilet paper, laundry detergent, electric bills… $5.80 starts to look pretty hefty for a snack that won’t even satisfy.

You know what's a common afternoon snack for the kids in my MC (or is it UMC) home? An apple. I'm not certain I understand why poor kids need bigger snacks than do the more affluent kids I know.

Unless the heartiness requirements for poor kids have gone up since I was a poor kid, we don't need to pack their snacks with density. Perhaps part of the unhealthiness problem is that we're telling people it's okay, even advisable, to pack a meal's worth of calories into a snack.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


How many times have I dispelled that line here?
Might have been you or 'Turk but someone posted some strong data showing, that in reality, the poor work the least number of hours on average in our society.

Also, besides a major city where is $1000/mo for rent "cheap"?

I've never understood this "too poor to eat healthy." Going to the grocery store is far cheaper than eating even fast food. I remember being poor, and I still always found a way to go to the grocery store and cook at home. Then again, I always found a way to contribute money to an emergency fund and invest for retirement. I didn't have a smart phone, HBO, and I owned a cheap used car (which I still own). It is about prioritization.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Also, besides a major city where is $1000/mo for rent "cheap"?

I've never understood this "too poor to eat healthy." Going to the grocery store is far cheaper than eating even fast food. I remember being poor, and I still always found a way to go to the grocery store and cook at home. Then again, I always found a way to contribute money to an emergency fund and invest for retirement. I didn't have a smart phone, HBO, and I owned a cheap used car (which I still own). It is about prioritization.

It's about decision making. I made plenty of bad decisions (still do but my income buffers me now) back when and you have to get to a tipping point of good decisions that do not exist in the here and now which is where most of the poor live. Society has trained them to think this way because another score, another hand out, another transfer payment is always on the horizon.
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Everytime I get a "quick and cheap" meal for the family at a drive in I'm amazed with the total. After eating Ifeel ripped off and think that I should have just bought a pre-cooked chicken/pre-made salad and some bread for half the price. Seems healthier, tastes better and sits in my tummy far better.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

It's about decision making. I made plenty of bad decisions (still do but my income buffers me now) back when and you have to get to a tipping point of good decisions that do not exist in the here and now which is where most of the poor live. Society has trained them to think this way because another score, another hand out, another transfer payment is always on the horizon.

The other problem, which I have seen through family is that often times these programs have an asset limit, so it directly discourages people from saving because they'll lose their food stamps or Medicaid or whatever. The asset limit for Medicaid (excluding your house and car) here is like $2000.
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8 Things You Should Know About Corporations Like Pearson that Make Huge Profits from Standardized Tests

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A few months ago, fourth-grader Joey Furlong was lying in a hospital bed, undergoing a pre-brain surgery screening, when a teacher walked in the room with a standardized test. Shocked, Joey’s father, who was in the room, told the teacher to leave.

How is this Pearson's fault?
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A few months ago, Pearson erroneously scored New York City students’ tests used for entry into its gifted and talented programs. Thirteen percent of students K-3 (yes, kindergarteners take these tests), who were qualified for the programs, were wrongly rejected.

What other objective way do they propose students are selected for gifted programs?
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Not only are these corporations cheering on additional testing from the sidelines, they are also flexing their money muscle via lobbying. One 2011 report found Pearson spent close to $700,000 lobbying in four key states.
Because the teachers union isn't lobbying at all...
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Assessment experts and academics were the main writers of the Common Core standards, while few of its consultants were classroom teachers, and parents played no role. The tests are expected to be much harder than current tests. They are supposed to be able to determine “college readiness,” although many realize — including Pearson researchers — that testing this is a complex matter.

Turns out teachers widely favored Common Core until last year...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2014/08/19/poll-common-core-support-among-teachers-plummets-with-fewer-than-half-supporting-it/
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Mug™ Root Beer, IBM™, Lego®, FIFA® and Mindstorms™ — what do all these corporate brands have in common? They were all found in this year’s New York State English exam. Pearson denies receiving money from these corporations, though some say there should be further investigation.

Obviously kids reading a standardized test with a product placement are going to go out like mindless drones and buy the product mentioned in the test...
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I'm seeing a lot of stuff coming up in my feed about the Baltimore riots. One particularly popular bit of commentary is the "here's a bunch of times white people rioted over something dumb" false equivalence. Most of it is coming from the usual suspects, but it has also been posted by some folks whose opinions and reasoning I generally respect, which is pretty disappointing.
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Speaking of false equivalences, can you imagine the media response if a crowd of angry white people had started attacking random blacks in the street? The media doesn't even seem to have noticed that happening in Baltimore.
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Originally Posted by MrG View Post

I'm seeing a lot of stuff coming up in my feed about the Baltimore riots. One particularly popular bit of commentary is the "here's a bunch of times white people rioted over something dumb" false equivalence. Most of it is coming from the usual suspects, but it has also been posted by some folks whose opinions and reasoning I generally respect, which is pretty disappointing.

It really gets the whole point backwards, turning it into just another Race War issue but from a self-hating point of view. "White people are assholes too" just flips the script, it doesn't contribute anything productive. They're still not asking why poor urban youth feel the need to riot.
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I'm not sure I get the gist of this article. Is it slut shaming Pearson for trying to make a buck in a new market? Maybe they should fat shame the government that required these bullshit tests in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Speaking of false equivalences, can you imagine the media response if a crowd of angry white people had started attacking random blacks in the street? The media doesn't even seem to have noticed that happening in Baltimore.

Soft bigotry of low expectations.

-DPM.
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Speaking of false equivalences, can you imagine the media response if a crowd of angry white people had started attacking random blacks in the street? The media doesn't even seem to have noticed that happening in Baltimore.

I'm sure lots of black people were attacked too however they don't work for the news media.
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I didn't see the crowd attacking random black people, just whites. But then I haven't been following it that closely.

The folks who're putting "black owned business" in their window seem to know what's up.

Oh, and speaking of, I did encounter this: http://imgur.com/gallery/QVh32

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Summary: some dopey reporter from a local paper claimed that the woman was trying to take the shopping bag from the man.

Edit: two reporters lying about, it apparently

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Edited by Ataturk - 4/29/15 at 8:04am
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