Originally Posted by Piobaire
If a society is prone to violence and guns are available, you're inevitably going to have gun violence. I also do not think the US is more violent than many countries that have far stricter gun control but rather the prevalence of guns leads to more deadly outcomes. Here is some OECD data showing the US actually has a far lower assault rate than many countries that consider themselves far more safe than the US (including the Scandinavian countries). It also shows the murder rate where the US is tied for second highest.
What I draw from this is it seems incidence of violent attacks is actually higher in other countries, but less likely to lead to murder, as the ready access to guns is not there.
Took me a while to read this, work got in the way. #notabigtimer and all such things..
I think you're right with the above. Interesting though that the US its assault rate is 1,5%, while the homicide rate is 5,2 per 100.000. If you assume that every murder is also an assault, it becomes 5.2 murders on 1500 assaults. comparing that with for instance my own country (surprising how many assaults we have btw!) the Netherlands: which would end up being 0.9 murders per 4900 assaults, or 1 murder per 5444 assaults if we stick to even numbers. In comparison in the US that would become 1 in 288 assaults.
I know its a bad use of statistics, but it would mean that a cop being assaulted would be 18.9 times more likely be murdered in the US than in the NL.
If I look at this:
of those 5.2 murders, 4.7 is with a firearm, so 90% .So in short, if a cop is assaulted he has a 1 in 288 chance of dying, one in 320 by firearm..
From that, I fully understand them wanting to feel safer wearing body armor and bigger guns, and shooting quickly or first as well.
Subtracting guns from that would make the US one of the safes countries on earth with just a 0.5 murder rate
And again, yes I know that this is bad math
@Ataturk, in my neighborhood it kind of works the other way. Where there are more guns you are more likely to die due to those guns, approximately 19 times more likely.. the MAD deterrent doesn't really work when there is concealed carry.