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post #3211 of 5465
Presumably it's because abortion opponents are all racist. Everyone knows it's mostly white babies who are aborted...
post #3212 of 5465
What happened to the America with the vision and the wear with all to see that vision become a reality that created the Transcontinental Railroad, the Interstate Freeway System, Air travel, and Space travel? If that spirit were alive today we would have such things as National High Speed Rail. But we don't. So my question is why, what happened to that visionary spirit?

Two of today's posts came from one person.
post #3213 of 5465
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

What happened to the America with the vision and the wear with all to see that vision become a reality that created the Transcontinental Railroad, the Interstate Freeway System, Air travel, and Space travel? If that spirit were alive today we would have such things as National High Speed Rail. But we don't. So my question is why, what happened to that visionary spirit?

Obviously it's the Republicans who are stifling the output from our government. You didn't build that!
post #3214 of 5465
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

What happened to the America with the vision and the wear with all to see that vision become a reality that created the Transcontinental Railroad, the Interstate Freeway System, Air travel, and Space travel? If that spirit were alive today we would have such things as National High Speed Rail. But we don't. So my question is why, what happened to that visionary spirit?

Two of today's posts came from one person.

Three things -

1> over-politicization (by default, it has become an issue where Dems are for and GOP is against, without any real consideration for why)
2> Obsession with the automobile
3> Lobbying power of competitors, Corporate/Government Collusion, etc.

The collusion piece is particularly relevant since Amtrak was once state-owned and is no-longer, because the actual accomplishment of a nationwide high-speed rail would require a massive public domain grab of an entire company since they are the sole owners of the access rights to the land with tracks on it.
post #3215 of 5465
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post

What happened to the America with the vision and the wear with all to see that vision become a reality that created the Transcontinental Railroad, the Interstate Freeway System, Air travel, and Space travel? If that spirit were alive today we would have such things as National High Speed Rail. But we don't. So my question is why, what happened to that visionary spirit?

Two of today's posts came from one person.

Being the world's policeman isn't big enough vision for you?
post #3216 of 5465
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post

Three things -

1> over-politicization (by default, it has become an issue where Dems are for and GOP is against, without any real consideration for why)
2> Obsession with the automobile
3> Lobbying power of competitors, Corporate/Government Collusion, etc.

The collusion piece is particularly relevant since Amtrak was once state-owned and is no-longer, because the actual accomplishment of a nationwide high-speed rail would require a massive public domain grab of an entire company since they are the sole owners of the access rights to the land with tracks on it.

Great answer..nod[1].gif
post #3217 of 5465
I think Americans greatly overestimate the use of high-speed rail by Euros.
post #3218 of 5465
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Originally Posted by FLMountainMan View Post

I think Americans greatly overestimate the use of high-speed rail by Euros.

I think in the US, like anywhere, there is a case to be made for high-speed rail on specific routes:

We already have the Acela connecting NY/PHL/DC/Boston. It's not superfast, but it's better than nothing. There would be a lot of demand for something that connects Chicago->Detroit->Cleveland->that east coast system, preferably with a higher speed.

I bet Vegas->LA would be a hit.
San Diego -> LA -> SFO
Houston -> Dallas


But that's about it. A nation-wide system would be a tremendous waste.

For those that have not ridden the maglev - it's awesome:
post #3219 of 5465
Lol kmh.
post #3220 of 5465
268 MPH - at that speed I could get from Chicago to NYC in under 3 hours. Considering airport time, that's faster than flying.
post #3221 of 5465
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRon View Post

268 MPH - at that speed I could get from Chicago to NYC in under 3 hours. Considering airport time, that's faster than flying.

Who cares about Chicago? And why should I (who lives in northeast PA) have to subsidize your trip?
post #3222 of 5465
Also the TSA has now expanded to buses and trains so it's only a matter of time before they start molesting you at stations.
post #3223 of 5465
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

And why should I (who lives in northeast PA) have to subsidize your trip?

It's the American way.
post #3224 of 5465
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

It's the American way.

You don't have an opinion here you're in one of those shitty rectangular states in the center of the country. I'm in Pennsylvania. The birthplace of democracy. My opinion matters. I don't want to pay for other people to ride the train. No one pays for me when I have to ride it so fuck everybody else.*

*Mostly sarcasm. Mostly.
post #3225 of 5465
Wouldn't have to be subsidized from Chicago to NYC. I believe there's enough demand to price it about $50 under an air ticket, move 3x as many passengers at a lower marginal cost. The fixed cost would be recovered over time, of course, but I think it's a sound investment for Amtrak (of course someone with more knowledge than me must have done the math and they decided it's not or we'd have one).

BTW - the flights from PHL to ORD are always full, so there must be some demand to go that direction.
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