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I just did. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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What did Ed just do I haz confuse.
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Originally Posted by MrG View Post

Yeah, I almost did the same thing, but I've done a pretty good amount of trolling for this particular issue, so I thought I'd let it go.
That's because "conservative" in America doesn't actually mean small government. It means big government for social issues and small for economic, with the opposite being true for liberals. The only people who actually want small government are the libertarians and classical liberal types.
Agreed. Those there are those of us who fall short of libertarianism who are still staunch states' rights people, too, but it's definitely a libertarian/classical liberal position. Note: I'm ignoring the people who use "states' rights" as some sort of code for their bullshit Lost Cause Neoconfederate position, as those people aren't worth taking seriously.

Was thinking about this from the other thread, but I'm not really sure I understand the ideological linkage between libertarian thought and state's rights. It's almost become reflexive to assume that "libertarian = state's rights", but how exactly does that make sense? Allowing each state the ability to restrict personal rights (or not) is an odd sort of "freedom," if your goal is really the expansion of individual freedom.

It seems mostly practical to me, framed in the context of US politics. Libertarians see most overreaches of government power coming from the federal level, but there's nothing innate about that.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Was thinking about this from the other thread, but I'm not really sure I understand the ideological linkage between libertarian thought and state's rights. It's almost become reflexive to assume that "libertarian = state's rights", but how exactly does that make sense? Allowing each state the ability to restrict personal rights (or not) is an odd sort of "freedom," if your goal is really the expansion of individual freedom.

It seems mostly practical to me, framed in the context of US politics. Libertarians see most overreaches of government power coming from the federal level, but there's nothing innate about that.

I believe the reasoning is seen as the more local the government is, the better.
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I think the entire CNN.com front page could be posted here every single day.

Today's highlights:

Underneath a banner regarding the Supreme Court considering gay marriage, an editorial proclaiming that "Bigotry Makes a Comeback." The editorial argues, in a year where support for gay marriage is at an all-time high and even a state like Florida is considering gay marriage, that homophobia is worse than ever and as compares anti-gay marriage to miscegenation laws.

And the following other headlines:

"Strong Opinions Fly at Westboro Picket" (I really can't believe they typed that with a straight face. I'm surprised we didn't see "Tempers High at Newtown Massacre")

"Rand Paul, the Future of Conservatism"
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I tend to agree with that. Abortion is a great example where faux (religious) conservatives want federal law outlawing it. However, liberals are against states' rights on this as heaven forbid a state should make a decision they disagree with over abortion.

If you believe that federal government serves any one purpose, you'd probably agree that this purpose is to protect the most basic human rights— the things that should be untouchable by any tyranny of the majority. For pro-lifers, this includes the right to life of the unborn. The right to life is a pretty essential thing, after all— we're not talking trivial shit like egg rations or rent control.

That's the principle of the matter, in practice, I don't think many pro-lifers seriously have their hopes pinned to a Right-To-Life amendment. In fact, I think most pro-lifers would support states' rights in this matter, because if RvW were overturned and the matter went back to state-level elected representatives, there would almost immediately be serious restrictions enacted on abortion in a whole host of states. Mississippi and South Daktota might outlaw it entirely (closing all of- what?- five abortion clinics?)

Deciding social issues by judicial fiat is never quite the fait accompli that activists on any side of an issue like to imagine it. Removing it from the hands of elected representatives leaves a whole segment of the population feeling disenfranchised, stoking the flames of resentment, which is part of the reason the abortion still remains so contentious. People are far more likely to tolerate a law-of-the-land that contradicts their own personal convictions if they at least feel they have part ownership in it.
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I. Pure Gold:
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The bible does say that we should pay all taxes and is talked about throughout scripture because we are to submit to the government and to authority (Matthew 22:17-21, Romans 13:6-7, Romans 13:1-7). So what is the biblical version of marriage?? Even more so, isn't it just plain morality and physical evidence than we've been built differently physically and mentally? (a penis and a vagina, clearly one goes into the other and were made for reproduction. A man and a woman, both are different psychologically and should be different in positions for marriage.) Biblically, homosexuality is sinful and 8 times out of 10, most of the time homosexuality originates from deeper personal problems and my heart is broken for that community because those people were created for greater things than just a life of sinfulness and brokenness. I love the gay community for the people and the way God has made them to be, to support their sin and leave them to a life that they were not created for would be unloving and if God, our creator, promises a life way better than we ourselves can create in our minds, wouldn't you want to trust in that? (Jeremiah 29:11, Romans 8:28)
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"Share this if you believe this is an injustice to our troops who put their lives on the line to protect us, and this is the think they get."

"From what I have read, there is a federal law against this, yet it still keeps happening. And we bailed these same banks out...."

I'm not without sympathy here, but come on. If you fight in a war, you're just supposed to get a house for free, courtesy of the bank?
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Lol that's pretty funny actually.
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"Share this if you believe this is an injustice to our troops who put their lives on the line to protect us, and this is the think they get."

"From what I have read, there is a federal law against this, yet it still keeps happening. And we bailed these same banks out...."

I'm not without sympathy here, but come on. If you fight in a war, you're just supposed to get a house for free, courtesy of the bank?

There's definitely a lot more going on that we're not privy to.
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Lol that's pretty funny actually.
There's definitely a lot more going on that we're not privy to.

Well, I'm assuming the guy didn't pay his mortgage. And didn't pay it for a long ass time, most likely, considering I see bankruptcy clients all the time who are around 2 years behind on their mortgages and still living in their house. I've never seen a bank champ at the bit to foreclose on a house. It's not really a money maker for them and they will do a lot to avoid it.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Well, I'm assuming the guy didn't pay his mortgage. And didn't pay it for a long ass time, most likely, considering I see bankruptcy clients all the time who are around 2 years behind on their mortgages and still living in their house. I've never seen a bank champ at the bit to foreclose on a house. It's not really a money maker for them and they will do a lot to avoid it.

I see that but when it comes to military folks they often get a longer pass. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a divorce or some serious PTSD going on.
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Not political, but WTF?:
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I purposely made my sex female so I wouldn't get a bunch of ads with skimpily dressed women all over the place, have to fight temptation as much as I can!
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Reply: what's temptation if none of those scantily clad women would give you consent?
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Maybe he's a compulsive masturbator
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