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post #1981 of 5454
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Originally Posted by Deluks917 View Post

I am a Libertarian. But I always wonder if other libertarians seriously think we are anywhere near the mainstream.

This is because "mainstream" is defined by asking the "man on the street" one question instead of two.

The question that is asked: "Would you like lower taxes, worldwide military dominance, a safety net for everybody, and a pony?"

The question that isn't: "Are you aware that that is mathematically impossible, you fucking moron?"
post #1982 of 5454
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

Look, there are some positions from the libertarian side that deserve serious consideration. But it's asinine to take isolated policy positions and pretend that Paulites hold "mainstream" beliefs. The total package is WAY more than the vast majority of Americans are comfortable with, which explains his complete lack of traction in any national political arena.
His policies would directly eliminate my current job, remove the mechanisms that I used to get training for this career in the first place, and cripple my whole industry for the indefinite future if not forever. That's about all I need to think about, but there's plenty of other stuff to find fault with and most people do.

True - sadly Gary Johnson was never given a good stage. He's much more pragmatic about moving in a good direction than taking hard-line stances on some of the more "out there" libertarian policies. For example, he would suggest more choice in public education, but would never go out and campaign for privatizing k-8. He supports the fair tax,, but would campaign for simplifying the tax code first.
post #1983 of 5454
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

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Sadly I think there would be more voters in states like Virginia (government leeches) and Florida (supporters of Israel) who would vote Obama over Paul.
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Is that chart trying to say that Paul would receive all Republican votes that Romney won plus the votes from his supporters at the delegation (which by this logic Romney presumably got none of)?
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Originally Posted by mordecai View Post

Is that chart trying to say that Paul would receive all Republican votes that Romney won plus the votes from his supporters at the delegation (which by this logic Romney presumably got none of)?

Yes. The same people who are posting and discussing this also seemed to think as the convention started that Paul could somehow come out of the convention as the nominee.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Yes. .

Then it's a stupid chart for not accounting for all of the Democratic votes that he would have siphoned away from Obama! RONPAULRONPAULRONAPULRONPAUL!!!!
post #1987 of 5454
I actually like Ron Paul in a lot of ways. But I don't see how his supporters, a lot of whom are pretty smart people, don't recognize what a disaster he would be as a president.
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Originally Posted by dopey View Post

Now would be a good time to remind people that the title of this thread is "Stupid Political Crap Your Friends Post on Facebook", not "Stupid Political Crap I Post on Styleforum on The Thread called Stupid Political Crap Your Friends Post on Facebook ."
In fact, I think I will do that.

I'm now in an infinite loop.
post #1990 of 5454
Between that and posting Stupid political crap in my makeup science thread, he totally broke my thread logic circuits.
post #1991 of 5454
And now back to your regularly scheduled programming...

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post #1992 of 5454
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post


Unfortunately, Social Security is sold in this country as an investment, not a transfer payment. Thus, removing the cap on investment would require either a fundamental shift in the way it is administered, or an increase in the maximum benefit.

I support means-testing for SS, which would have the same net effect of creating solvency, but it will be far too unpopular to ever be implemented.
post #1993 of 5454
i dont see why ssi should be means tested. this would eliminate a large portion of our society that provide needs and goods for our system that monetarily dont have enough value, but arguably has great social value (like motherhood). also means testing leads to so much bullshit and bureaucracy.

i do agree however that it should not be a pay as you go system that transfer wealth from the youth to the elderly. the one reason it is so politically untouchable is that the current elderly basically paid very little for what they're getting out of it and the elderly are politically powerful.

SSI should be an individual tax free savings account, with the government helping out poor people save. like a small percentage of your income goes into a tax free account that can only invest in stable investment vehicles and the government uses the surplus from people with higher income to supplement lack of input from lower income people and set the input at some fixed amount. you get it back tax free when you retire.

general revenues should not be allowed to fund SSI. SSI shouldn't even be left at the hands of the government.
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Originally Posted by musicmax View Post

You think incorrectly. Sentient beings recognize that govt expansion is not a partisan proposition. Nixon declared "we're all Keynesians" and closed the gold window. A first class stamp at the start of the Nixon presidency cost the same as it did a century prior, six cents. From a monetary perspective, Wilson (enacted the Fed), FDR (devalued the dollar by decree and outlawed gold ownership) and Nixon (made all money political fiat money) are the Axis Of Evil
Cut it all. There are seventeen enumerated federal powers. Eliminate everything else.

i'm not talking about monetary. i'm talking about expansion of federal programs like medicare, medicaid, and ssi.

whatever. anything i tell you is highly unlikely to turn into an intelligent conversation. you think far too simplistically. you can't simply blame all economic evils on movement away from gold based currency. inflation still occurs under gold. monetary value of gold is easily manipulated. a floating currency based on all other currencies makes far more sense than basing a currency on an actual metal that countries have varying amounts of. there is also not enough gold at current prices to use as the currency for the whole economy of the us

what you really want is low inflation and that's something the fed could do, but doesn't always. but that doesn't make the fed an axis of evil. if it was used properly you could get it to do what you think the country should do.

nobody is going to totally abandon something that is the status quo like the fed so you might as well whine about something else.
post #1994 of 5454
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Originally Posted by Sir Humphrey Appleby View Post

This is the problem with having principles.

No it's the problem with being an amoral lunatic who doesn't believe in common decency.
post #1995 of 5454
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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

i dont see why ssi should be means tested. this would eliminate a large portion of our society that provide needs and goods for our system that monetarily dont have enough value, but arguably has great social value (like motherhood). also means testing leads to so much bullshit and bureaucracy.
i do agree however that it should not be a pay as you go system that transfer wealth from the youth to the elderly. the one reason it is so politically untouchable is that the current elderly basically paid very little for what they're getting out of it and the elderly are politically powerful.
SSI should be an individual tax free savings account, with the government helping out poor people save. like a small percentage of your income goes into a tax free account that can only invest in stable investment vehicles and the government uses the surplus from people with higher income to supplement lack of input from lower income people and set the input at some fixed amount. you get it back tax free when you retire.
general revenues should not be allowed to fund SSI. SSI shouldn't even be left at the hands of the government.
i'm not talking about monetary. i'm talking about expansion of federal programs like medicare, medicaid, and ssi.
whatever. anything i tell you is highly unlikely to turn into an intelligent conversation. you think far too simplistically. you can't simply blame all economic evils on movement away from gold based currency. inflation still occurs under gold. monetary value of gold is easily manipulated. a floating currency based on all other currencies makes far more sense than basing a currency on an actual metal that countries have varying amounts of. there is also not enough gold at current prices to use as the currency for the whole economy of the us
what you really want is low inflation and that's something the fed could do, but doesn't always. but that doesn't make the fed an axis of evil. if it was used properly you could get it to do what you think the country should do.
nobody is going to totally abandon something that is the status quo like the fed so you might as well whine about something else.

Don't forget he's also a fucking moron because inflation isn't actually a bad thing, and he doesn't understand this.
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