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I think most folks here know I personally have no use for religion but I'm fine with them getting non-profit status if they stay out of politics of all forms. The foregone income on their property tax is pretty minor and I'm sure most communities can support their municipal services. I do think we toss around non-profit status a little too easily and to groups that should lose it though.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I think most folks here know I personally have no use for religion but I'm fine with them getting non-profit status if they stay out of politics of all forms. The foregone income on their property tax is pretty minor and I'm sure most communities can support their municipal services. I do think we toss around non-profit status a little too easily and to groups that should lose it though.

You'd probably know about this:
Where do religious hospitals fall on the tax exempt status? Do they pay taxes like normal hospitals or what?


I've heard some groups bitching about church run gyms and such getting huge competitive advantages from not paying taxes, but not sure what the deal is with hospitals.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I think most folks here know I personally have no use for religion but I'm fine with them getting non-profit status if they stay out of politics of all forms. The foregone income on their property tax is pretty minor and I'm sure most communities can support their municipal services. I do think we toss around non-profit status a little too easily and to groups that should lose it though.

You'd probably know about this:
Where do religious hospitals fall on the tax exempt status? Do they pay taxes like normal hospitals or what?


I've heard some groups bitching about church run gyms and such getting huge competitive advantages from not paying taxes, but not sure what the deal is with hospitals.

Actually, the majority of hospitals are non-profits, religious or otherwise, then about equal numbers of public (government owned, i.e. V.A.) and privately owned for profit hospitals.

They do not pay taxes like a normal business but there are a billion permutations, i.e. wholly owned for profit subsidiaries which would pay taxes. Most of healthcare in general is still non-profit.
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

That is just full of lolz.
What does this one even mean:
37. Families of fallen soldiers have expenses
the best part was the blatant repeats in order to make it look like he accomplished a lot.
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I enjoyed "accomplishments" such as Cash for Clunkers.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I enjoyed "accomplishments" such as Cash for Clunkers.

He single-handedly saved Wall Street.
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I like how the first one implies he got lucky on his third guess.
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65. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals

72. . Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals.

Why is this worthy of two mentions? Also, doesn't anyone else see this as a bad thing? How is allowing the government more access to our private information a good thing?
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Why is this worthy of two mentions? Also, doesn't anyone else see this as a bad thing? How is allowing the government more access to our private information a good thing?

Because now, as an American, many Swiss banks won't even let you have an account with them due to all the paperwork.

I actually find it funny how people are so caught up on Swiss banks. Rumor has it, many of the Pacific and Caribbean islands are better for trying to evade taxes these days.
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Strawmen ftw!

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Originally Posted by indesertum View Post

Well you're not really taxing the nation more you're just not taxing it as much as you could be
The same bad argument could be made for any tax breaks

Indeed. The only unique part about that pic is framing it in the context of church/state. The truth is that every tax break messes with the distribution of burden.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I think most folks here know I personally have no use for religion but I'm fine with them getting non-profit status if they stay out of politics of all forms. The foregone income on their property tax is pretty minor and I'm sure most communities can support their municipal services. I do think we toss around non-profit status a little too easily and to groups that should lose it though.

Agreed on all points, but especially on the churches and NPO status meaning they stay out of politics completely. The wall should prevent involvement in both directions, state ---> church and church ---> state.
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Why is this worthy of two mentions? Also, doesn't anyone else see this as a bad thing? How is allowing the government more access to our private information a good thing?

Because, Harv, the only people who will be impacted are the evil one percenters who hide all of their money in those accounts to avoid paying their fair share! Duh!
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

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65. Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals

72. . Negotiated deal with Swiss banks to permit US government to gain access to records of tax evaders and criminals.

Why is this worthy of two mentions? Also, doesn't anyone else see this as a bad thing? How is allowing the government more access to our private information a good thing?

For the Valley Girl vote. He wanted to be fer sure, fer sure.
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

Why is this worthy of two mentions? Also, doesn't anyone else see this as a bad thing? How is allowing the government more access to our private information a good thing?


Not our private information, just rich nasty people's private information. Very different things.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I think most folks here know I personally have no use for religion but I'm fine with them getting non-profit status if they stay out of politics of all forms. The foregone income on their property tax is pretty minor and I'm sure most communities can support their municipal services. I do think we toss around non-profit status a little too easily and to groups that should lose it though.

Why should churches/NPOs stay out of politics? (serious question)
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Originally Posted by MrG View Post

Indeed. The only unique part about that pic is framing it in the context of church/state. The truth is that every tax break messes with the distribution of burden.

Were non-religious tax exemptions a common thing when Garfield was prez?
Edited by Fang66 - 9/7/12 at 1:53pm
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