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I've been seeing this one come up.

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Now honesty of the chart aside, I understand that the intention is to "gotcha" Republicans for some level of hypocrisy in railing against federal spending while their constituencies receive an amount disproportionate to what they contribute in federal taxes. But to my eyes, it seems to be saying that GOP supporters are the ones most likely to suffer if federal spending is cut, so doesn't this just add gravity to Republican efforts to reduce that spending? Doesn't it also imply perhaps that poorer states don't want the federal handouts paid for by wealthier states?

What say you? Feel free to disregard and post questions about other annoying fb links or chain emails.
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Oh, just you wait...
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An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan". All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something closer to home and more readily understood by all).
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little..
The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. It could not be any simpler than that.
Remember, there IS a test coming up. The 2012 elections.

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it!
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
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BTW Mordy, I love how we have friends who are just as dumb, but on other sides of the political spectrum.
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Ugh, I have an old friend from high-school who is obsessed with Obama. He's been known to change his profile picture to one of the man and regurgitates White House press releases in his status stream. It's almost unbearable.
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Here's a gem from his wall.


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Originally Posted by Bhowie View Post

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oh man I've seen this one all over the place and it drives me fucking nuts
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Originally Posted by mordecai View Post

I've been seeing this one come up.
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Now honesty of the chart aside, I understand that the intention is to "gotcha" Republicans for some level of hypocrisy in railing against federal spending while their constituencies receive an amount disproportionate to what they contribute in federal taxes. But to my eyes, it seems to be saying that GOP supporters are the ones most likely to suffer if federal spending is cut, so doesn't this just add gravity to Republican efforts to reduce that spending? Doesn't it also imply perhaps that poorer states don't want the federal handouts paid for by wealthier states?
What say you? Feel free to disregard and post questions about other annoying fb links or chain emails.

I think you have to wait until such efforts are sustained into a Republican administration and result in real fiscal reforms before you give credit.
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Originally Posted by cross22 View Post

I think you have to wait until such efforts are sustained through a Republican administration and result in real fiscal reforms before you give credit.

Why? People vote for rhetoric. Republicans don't generally say "We will cut government spending but keep popular entitlement programs" They say "We will cut government spending" and receive the votes of those most likely to benefit from increased or preserved entitlements (which is the common platform of Democrats). Obviously there isn't black and white liberal-conservative divide, but I'm speaking in general terms here only related to the chart (taking it at face value).
I understand your point, and i think it's half good and maybe half empty. Republicans don't want to shock their constituency into voting for the other guys via drastic reforms, but the idea that they could really even achieve drastic reforms without facing interest groups, power plays from colleagues on another part of the red-blue scale, filibuster, or veto seems questionable to me.
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Originally Posted by mordecai View Post

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My state is No. 6 on the "get" list. Also colored red, in spite of the fact that until Jan. '11 all of our reps in DC were Democrats.
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Originally Posted by mordecai View Post

Doesn't it also imply perhaps that poorer states don't want the federal handouts paid for by wealthier states?
What say you? Feel free to disregard and post questions about other annoying fb links or chain emails.

Just for clarification, do these payments include defence?
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Originally Posted by coldarchon View Post

Just for clarification, do these payments include defence?

It's probably averaged in some manner of fanciful math but I don't know. Hence "honesty of the chart aside"
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Originally Posted by Dakota rube View Post

My state is No. 6 on the "get" list. Also colored red, in spite of the fact that until Jan. '11 all of our reps in DC were Democrats.

Well, the numbers as per the chart are from 04' and 05', 10 or 11 numbers would be a better reflection of the current situation. No need to be purposely disingenuous.
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