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post #16 of 36
So is their an equivalent fit for the Phineas Cole stuff?
post #17 of 36
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Major Psa:
You can get a samuelsohn mtm suit with Holland and Sherry cloth for $1300. Their H&S cloths are half off until tomorrow morning. They have amazing fabrics left but I'm pissed I didn't hear about it until today.

I wonder what they charge for a three piece suit?
post #18 of 36
Harry Rosen's house brand "J.P. Tilford" is made for them by Samuelsohn, I believe Rosen runs a MTM sale twice (?) yearly and that would be a good time to go suit shopping. I purchased an unlined Tilford navy blazer this Christmas from Rosen. It's made from the Loro Piana Storm System fabric and is really an awesome piece - super versatile.
post #19 of 36
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I wonder what they charge for a three piece suit?

The vest is about 450 more.

Getting a fully canvassed mtm 3 piece suit in H&S fabric for under 2k is a great value.

The H&S fabric discount wasn't advertised as part of their mtm event. The SA just mentioned it in passing, and they had 4 swatch books full of disciounted fabrics. They had everything from heavy/tweed like fabrics to tropical/light fabrics. They also have some amazing pin stripe designs.
post #20 of 36
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The vest is about 450 more.


Wow, that seems oddly high to me. Are vests hard to make?

Edit: not saying it isn't a great deal overall for a three piece MTM suit, but the price for the vest being almost the same as the cost of the pants or the suit jacket seems odd to me.
post #21 of 36
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So is their an equivalent fit for the Phineas Cole stuff?

Sadly, I think that the PC cut can only be MTM through Paul Stuart.
post #22 of 36
Thread Starter 
350-450 for a vest is pretty much standard for most mtm brands. But yeah, I wish it was $100.
post #23 of 36
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Sadly, I think that the PC cut can only be MTM through Paul Stuart.

Not surprising, it is a pretty aggressive cut.
post #24 of 36

I've always wanted to ask this question, but there's never been a thread for it--'til now. As a Torontonian, my closet's full of Samuelsohn stuff; as a student, it's all been thrifted. What does everyone think about older Samuelsohn in terms of quality and construction? I have a bunch of really recent suits and sportcoats--and I love them. But I've also picked up a lot of older Rosen-sold Samuelsohn stuff (say, '80s and early-'90s), that still holds up well. I'm talking about back when Samuelsohn tags listed only the chest size, and the Rosen tag read "Harry Rosen / Gentlemen's Apparel." But whereas the newer stuff that I've seen has ranged into the super 140s, the older non-Tilford stuff is heavy as hell and almost bulletproof. I guess that's why it's survived, but does anyone here still wear old Samuelsohn with the wide lapels?

post #25 of 36
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Harry Rosen's house brand "J.P. Tilford" is made for them by Samuelsohn, I believe Rosen runs a MTM sale twice (?) yearly and that would be a good time to go suit shopping. I purchased an unlined Tilford navy blazer this Christmas from Rosen. It's made from the Loro Piana Storm System fabric and is really an awesome piece - super versatile.

Is there a difference in the construction between MTM and RTW Tilford? I was looking at the trunk show and it looks like they follow the models of their RTW but substitute in material and details only. I am wondering if the actual construction of the suit is better with MTM.
post #26 of 36

Does anyone know which Samuelsohn "model" (i.e. Gable, Globe?) fits most alike the Paul Stuart "Paul" model (soft natural shoulders, trim sides)?

post #27 of 36

Curious about this too -- the Paul model is one of my favorite suits.

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Does anyone know which Samuelsohn "model" (i.e. Gable, Globe?) fits most alike the Paul Stuart "Paul" model (soft natural shoulders, trim sides)?

post #28 of 36
Probably the Greenwich and the now-discontinued Talbot. I read in Style Forum that Samuelsohn would not
even make the Talbot MTM. This should be verified with the company.
post #29 of 36

Hey folks, selling a custom Sammy Grail item if anyone is interested:http://www.styleforum.net/t/355534/insane-samuelsohn-custom-navy-sportscoat  Also have a RIDICULOUS and custom prince of whales in a wonderful fall pallet (13oz premium superfine) that was worn for literally 2 hours. Have not had the chance to list, but I assure you both are absolute STEALS as they retailed for over 1300.00 ea.

post #30 of 36
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Curious about this too -- the Paul model is one of my favorite suits.

Gabel is their slim cut

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