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Guy Savoy or Joel Robuchon?

post #1 of 44
1/17/12 at 8:38pm
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Going to Vegas with the wife in February, which would you choose?
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post #2 of 44
1/17/12 at 10:20pm
Local food critic John Curtas says Guy Savoy as his favorite.
Pinned him down one time to ask what the best of the best was.
The guy knows Vegas food.

http://www.eatinglv.com/
Every other year or so he comes out with "Eating Las Vegas 20xx"
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post #3 of 44
1/18/12 at 1:26am
Both are excellent and very different from each other.
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post #4 of 44
1/18/12 at 2:56pm
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At this point I'm leaning Guy Savoy a la carte menu + Picasso tasting. The Guy Savoy and Joel Robuchon tasting menus are pretty absurdly expensive and I say that as a guy who thinks that the Per Se and French Laundry tasting menus are worth every penny.
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post #5 of 44
1/18/12 at 4:35pm
Both robuchon ans savoy are much better than the French laundry, fwiw.
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post #6 of 44
1/19/12 at 2:42pm
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Both robuchon ans savoy are much better than the French laundry, fwiw.

Now that's interesting... having been to the former two in Vegas (tasting menus) and not to the Laundry... had things I liked and things I was very meh about at both. Just based on history I guess I held out some hope that the Laundry would be better.
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post #7 of 44
1/19/12 at 2:51pm
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Now that's interesting... having been to the former two in Vegas (tasting menus) and not to the Laundry... had things I liked and things I was very meh about at both. Just based on history I guess I held out some hope that the Laundry would be better.

Based on what history? I'm not doubting you, I'm just trying to understand what you mean.

I've only been to Savoy in Vegas once, though I have been several times in Paris, and I ordered a la carte, not a tasting menu. Robuchon I've been to several times, with meals ranging from transcendent to above average but slightly disappointing. The two recent times I've been to TFL, the food has been significantly flawed. I know, I know, don't complain about the king, but the seasoning has been poor and erratic (sadly even on the oyster and pearls last time), the food cold and the service, frankly, weird. Beautiful presentations, though.
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post #8 of 44
1/19/12 at 5:04pm
What I was trying to (unsuccessfully) convey is that your comment just challenges what, for me, is only myth as I have never been to TFL. And have only been to the other two once each.

I'm not extremely well-travelled in the best restaurants.

I enjoyed both of the restaurants but was not blown away, and the price compounded that.
As to TFL, Just based on their history and urban legend, both likely grossly exaggerated by those for whom the $$$ spent makes them claim the food was transcendent when they probably really don't know what they are talking about, I have only the "impression" that TFL "must" be the ne plus ultra. I know that's not true, but your comment just challenged my (inexperienced) perception of what TFL "must" be.

I appreciated that.
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post #9 of 44
1/19/12 at 5:06pm
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Matt,

You're a fan of Picasso right? Worth including in the trip?

HS
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post #10 of 44
1/19/12 at 5:07pm
IMO, Picasso's tasting menu is a great value. I will be eating there in Feb and can't wait for that insane hunk of foie they serve.
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post #11 of 44
1/19/12 at 5:08pm
I've been to Robouchon and it was fantastic. Most I have ever spent on a meal (by far) and I don't regret a penny.
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post #12 of 44
1/19/12 at 5:14pm
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Originally Posted by Cary Grant View Post

What I was trying to (unsuccessfully) convey is that your comment just challenges what, for me, is only myth as I have never been to TFL. And have only been to the other two once each.
I'm not extremely well-travelled in the best restaurants.
I enjoyed both of the restaurants but was not blown away, and the price compounded that.
As to TFL, Just based on their history and urban legend, both likely grossly exaggerated by those for whom the $$$ spent makes them claim the food was transcendent when they probably really don't know what they are talking about, I have only the "impression" that TFL "must" be the ne plus ultra. I know that's not true, but your comment just challenged my (inexperienced) perception of what TFL "must" be.
I appreciated that.

I don't necessarily know that I would take my opinion over others w/r/t the French Laundry. His food, in general, is not up my alley. Other people far more knowledgeable that me would certainly disagree. I can't put a finger exactly on what doesn't do it for me, but it isn't just Keller, it is most of the Progressive American Cuisine movement starting with him. You should try it, though. It is possible that I have been unfortunate, and everybody I've dined with there has sworn that the meal at which I joined them was by far the worst they have had at TFL. Not at my prodding, either. I only complain on the internet.

Robuchon, though, of the three has the biggest (and most deserved) reputation. I don't know if anybody would dispute that.
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post #13 of 44
1/19/12 at 5:20pm
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I've been to Robouchon and it was fantastic. Most I have ever spent on a meal (by far) and I don't regret a penny.

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post #14 of 44
1/19/12 at 5:22pm
Then again I have never had a bad meal at TFL or any Keller restaurant. I am a fan-boy.
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post #15 of 44
1/19/12 at 5:24pm
I'm going back to the BH Bouchon in mid February. Can't wait.
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