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Matrix was idiotic. The sci-fi was ridiculous - machines caring for humans to harvest the electricity of their brain waves? That's one of the dumbest premises ever. The action scenes were somewhat revolutionary for a mass-market film, although you could argue The Crow was similar, just on a smaller scale.

Though our neurons do store and fire electricity like capacitors, if I'm not mistaken I think what was harvested from the matrix's occupants were called BTUs which are, according to Wikipedia, a unit of measurement called British Thermal Units. But, I'm not sure the particulars are really that relevant. The Matrix was about how institutions (especially corporations and governments) control people by controlling how those people perceive the world in order for the institutions to maintain control and power. The "human fields" were just to further imbue the point that controlled people are power to those in control and how divergent those people's ideas about reality are from actual reality. That setting also allows Neo to go through the motions of Plato's Allegory of the Cave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave
Edited by boogaboogabooga - 3/7/12 at 6:30pm
post #77 of 689
AvP deconstructed both franchises and revolutionized sci-fi action for a new generation. The special effects and set-pieces were something we, as an audience, hadn't seen before. I will admit to its flaws (for instance, the human characters were hit-and-miss) but overall, it brought the entire mythology full circle.
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I agree with this. Aliens is dated, but Alien still holds up in the same way that Blade Runner does. Don't get me wrong, Aliens is a good, fun movie, but it's not an important movie.

Aliens didn't break any visual ground that wasn't already broken by the first movie. (Okay, putting machine guns on steadicam rigs was pretty cool.) Besides, Alien had this guy as the concept designer.

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The guys who rank AvP over these two films need to be banned for a month. 

lefty

... you know... that's how I'd imagine H.R. Giger to look.
post #79 of 689
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Originally Posted by Neo_Version 7 View Post

AvP deconstructed both franchises and revolutionized sci-fi action for a new generation. The special effects and set-pieces were something we, as an audience, hadn't seen before. I will admit to its flaws (for instance, the human characters were hit-and-miss) but overall, it brought the entire mythology full circle.

I hope you're mocking me.
post #80 of 689
Aliens and Matrix were not science fiction, they were action movies. If you think they were science fiction you're a fucking dummy. All reasonable people agree on this.
post #81 of 689
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Originally Posted by Neo_Version 7 View Post

AvP deconstructed both franchises and revolutionized sci-fi action for a new generation. The special effects and set-pieces were something we, as an audience, hadn't seen before. I will admit to its flaws (for instance, the human characters were hit-and-miss) but overall, it brought the entire mythology full circle.

That's why your generation is garbage and has nothing to offer. Enjoy a world without cigarettes or alcohol or red meat or contact sports.
post #82 of 689
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Aliens and Matrix were not science fiction, they were action movies. If you think they were science fiction you're a fucking dummy. All reasonable people agree on this.

How are they not scifi? They might not be hard scifi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_science_fiction

But please, I'm infinitely interested. Explain how Aliens and The Matrix aren't scifi. I'm dying to know.
post #83 of 689
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How are they not scifi? They might not be hard scifi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_science_fiction
But please, I'm infinitely interested. Explain how Aliens and The Matrix aren't scifi. I'm dying to know.

There was nothing scientific about either film. I will admit they were fictional, though.
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Originally Posted by boogaboogabooga View Post

... you know... that's how I'd imagine H.R. Giger to look.


No kidding. And in other concept art news, Ralph McQuarrie just died. He was responsible for art like this:

 

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lefty

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To the naysayers, this generation has offered a slew of revolutionary sci-fi action films including Terminator: Salvation, Inception, and Source Code in addition to AvP.

Your generation has stuff like this:

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post #86 of 689
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There was nothing scientific about either film. I will admit they were fictional, though.

There is nothing substantial about your post. I will admit that your post is a post, though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction

Look at the criteria. The Matrix and Alien films are inarguably science fiction.
post #87 of 689
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No kidding. And in other concept art news, Ralph McQuarrie just died. He was responsible for art like this:

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lefty

Yeah, I read about that on boingboing. It's too bad.
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Originally Posted by boogaboogabooga View Post

There is nothing substantial about your post. I will admit that your post is a post, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction
Look at the criteria. The Matrix and Alien films are inarguably science fiction.
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Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with imaginary but more or less plausible (or at least non-supernatural)

Lol. I will admit I was always more into the humanities but even I know aliens and matrix are not in any way plausible.
post #89 of 689
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Science fiction is a genre of fiction dealing with imaginary but more or less plausible (or at least non-supernatural)
Lol. I will admit I was always more into the humanities but even I know aliens and matrix are not in any way plausible.

Do you have schizophrenia?
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Do you have schizophrenia?

I don't think so but I admit I've never been checked for that.
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