Originally Posted by Teger
the matrix was ok... but i think a big testament to how good a film is is how its aged. aliens is still awesome and the matrix is so dated and painful.
To me they are both dated. Things get dated. Citizen Kane has been the "Greatest Film of All Time" for decades now. It's dated.
Read the reception articles.
Despite Aliens marginally higher aggregated scores from Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes, I'd say that The Matrix has cultural clout where Aliens doesn't. William Gibson and Darren Aronofsky gush about it and it's subtext is infinitely richer than the Aliens films. Also, I frankly don't see how Aliens "redefined" scifi action, but to your credit it's been a while. Can you explain how? The Matrix popularized "bullet time" and the whole slow-mo swirling camera thing. Techniques which have become nearly de rigueur in contemporary action films and that have even been utilized by the occasional drama, comedies, sports events, and commercials. So, if redefining action scifi is your point of differentiation, I fail to see how The Matrix hasn't eclipsed Aliens. I would also guess that the Matrix is generally ranked higher on film/scifi aficionado lists, but upon briefly looking I find that I am wrong in at least 1 or 2 instances.
Also, for clarification, in terms of importance I'd say Alien ranks The Matrix. That said, for my money (and to my memory) The Matrix ranks Aliens, easily. I'll probably give Aliens a watch sometime this week.