Prometheus (Ridley Scott's Alien "Prequel" ) - Page 38

i dont think its fair to call it a franchise, as that links the original matrix, which was fantastic, with the visual diarrhea that followed with the matrix name.

i would say the matrix was a single movie, and then someone tried to use the name to sell shit.

just makes me happier to see it that way, even if technically its not really true.

Don't agree--personal opinion--my favourite sequels are things like Mad Max 3 (the best Mad Max). I thought the best Toy Story was the original.

I hated Episode 1 and would argue it's the worst of the prequels. It's easily the most useless. Back in the day, who wondered what Darth Vader was like as an 11 year old boy? No one. I promise you, no one ever cared. They should have started the stories when he was around Luke's age in A New Hope. That would have allowed for more screen time to be spent on parts of the story that fans did care about. Like The Clone Wars and a more organic fall to the Dark Side for Vader.

I removed the last sentence, because it ruined an otherwise intelligent/correct post.

while they may not have been AS good as the original, they were all great movies in their own right. hence making them great sequels.

never saw any mad max, cant comment.

What mature adult, who enjoyed the first films, would not care?

I agree with your overall point, that this type of film usually succeeds best when it leaves more to the imagination - the original Alien is a perfect example of this. Almost nothing of the situation is explained along the way - some of it is shown (such as the fact that they are space truckers on their way home from a mission), while much more is left unsaid and unexplained - the Space Jockey, for example.

However, you're wrong about Prometheus, as it completely failed to do this. The entire first act is exposition setting up what is to come, and using many ludicrous plot devices (the "star map", the mission briefing & hologram, etc.


The scene when Natalie Portman jumped out of an airship, rolled down a sand dune and stood up was so ridiculously wooden that the entire theater cracked up when I saw it.

Alex, I love how you set this up so that anyone who disagrees with you is either a) stubbornly ignorant or b) don't know what makes a good film (I'm not sure how these two are different, actually). I think that you are the idiot here, not the people who are disagreeing with you. What do you say to that?

I say you are being too sensitive. People are, quite obviously--they're writing words--panning something because one or two things are 'silly'--disregarding truer qualities, such as: Cinematography, pace, acting, plot, etc, etc, etc. I know some people have said he/she was bad/the plot was rubbish. IDK, IMO, people have a tendency, to be hasty in their decision-making. IDK, most of the reasons people have posted here, for something sucking, seem trite. I know someone will be offended by that.

My main point being: People tend, to not look at something overall but, rather, at the merely pointless specifics. But, hay, if you're one of those people, I'm not going, to convince you.

Well I only said it was ok - i.e. it managed to be reasonably entertaining and not completely spoil the whole franchise. And it left enough unsaid to sustain 38 pages of speculation here and god/engineer jesus knows how much elsewhere on the internet.

JapanAlex, you seem like a nice enough guy but man you have awful taste in films.

Yes, I'm surprised that no one has yet mentioned the fact that a great cast was partly what made Alien what it was. I only read through to post 71. AR was pretty gimmicky with the worst acting/script/directing of them all (don't know who wrote it).

I'm so out of touch these days that I didn't know that this film was a prequel to Alien, one of my favourite movies of all time, even though I had seen a trailer. Can't wait to see it.

Now all we need is Ridley to deliver a Blade Runner sequel and I can die happy : )

EDIT: Sheesh, I guess I'm really out of touch. Page 7 of this thread indicates that the movie is already out. Now I have to read the whole thread to see about the acting.
Edited by tradernick - 6/19/12 at 2:07pm

I have mentioned 3–5 films, roughly, so I don't know how you can gauge my film taste. Thank you for the other compliment. (You seem like a nice, intelligent person, but have, twice now, written something, that has ruined a majoritively smart post.)

If you're interested, and it's a work in progress, here is my 100 Greatest Films of All Time List.

You know what would really interest me: Is if some of you posted your own reviews of films/things in my review thread; that may really get the conversation going.

You are seriously underestimating the amount of plot holes in the SW prequels... Even though Prometheus has quite a few, this just isn't even close in my opinion. Btw, Aliens had several odd plot holes/illogical moments as well.





For me it's the script and editing that is holding Prometheus back, that said I still enjoyed it. I'm also finally getting around to seeing it a second time tomorrow, let's see how it goes...

Do you keep adding commas to my posts?

LOL, yes. Sorry, it's an annoying habit of mine: I fix people's punctuation.