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I agree it's not as dark as Alien and more colorful, but I do like the look so far. The spacesuits have a classic sci-fi, pulp feel to them.
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Yeah, I remember more deliberate shots from Alien as well as dialogue and characters that weren't so obvious. It's weird. I would say the promotional material is something more tonally attractive to me than that scene was. Here's hoping it's not representative of the film as a whole or at least is able to work in a certain context.
post #212 of 689
Alien's cinematic success will be impossible to replicate in part because it was so unexpected. A young director, a largely unknown cast with a female lead, a unfamilar and to that point comical genre. To me, what makes Alien timeless is that it was great despite the odds - its the kind of movie that almost everyone remembers the first time they watched it.
post #213 of 689

All good movies are a perfect storm of script, cast and direction. 

 

Alien was a lowish-budget movie (originally 4M, then 6 or 8M after Scott begged for more money) which had an effect on the production design, direction and shooting schedule.  The equivalent today would be "cabin" horror movie.

 

Many of the effects were obscured and shot in shadow by necessity.  They were practical and the designers didn't have the luxury of digital rig removal or sweetening. The DP told me that they would sometimes just keep pulling lights to hide some of the dodgier monster shots. When doing his Alien movie Fincher said, "It's a guy in a fucking rubber suit. If we don't light it properly it will look like a guy in a fucking rubber suit.

 

For what they had to work with they did a remarkable job. The only shot that doesn't hold up is the chest burster racing across the table as it was just a guy dragging it along on a stick and look like it.

 

What is sometimes forgotten when discussing the success of Alien is that age of the cast. These were seasoned character actors with none under 30 - maybe Weaver or Cartwright was, can't be bothered to check - and they brought gravitas and acting chops. It would be tough to pitch a horror movie with 50 year olds today.

 

lefty


Edited by lefty - 5/16/12 at 7:07pm
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All good movies are a perfect storm of script, cast and direction. 

Alien was a lowish-budget movie (originally 4M, then 6 or 8M after Scott begged for more money) which had an effect on the production design, direction and shooting schedule.  The equivalent today would be "cabin" horror movie.

Many of the effects were obscured and shot in shadow by necessity.  They were practical and the designers didn't have the luxury of digital rig removal or sweetening. The DP told me that they would sometimes just keep pulling lights to hide some of the dodgier monster shots. When doing his Alien movie Fincher said, "It's a guy in a fucking rubber suit. If we don't light it properly it will look like a guy in a fucking rubber suit.

For what they had to work with they did a remarkable job. The only shot that doesn't hold up is the chest burster racing across the table as it was just a guy dragging it along on a stick and look like it.

What is sometimes forgotten when discussing the success of Alien is that age of the cast. These were seasoned character actors with none under 30 - maybe Weaver or Cartwright was, can't be bothered to check - and they brought gravitas and acting chops. It would be tough to pitch a horror movie with 50 year olds today.

lefty

Yeah, the low light was a good trick, and it made the movie's atmosphere better. Just rewatched Alien, and there are one or two scenes where you can tell it's a guy in a suit, though. I think the most obvious one is the scene near the end where Ripley sprays with the coolant or something - you can pretty much see it is a human arm in the rubber suit.
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I'm not saying that Scott didn't make the movie he wanted to, but the prod design/lighting really helped hide any flaws. What I loved (and I saw it on the opening night) was the grittiness of the ship and the crew. This was a nice change from Star Wars.

 

lefty

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I for one, am going to be a teenager again with this film. I am not going to allow myself to anticipate or compare to ALIEN but let uncle Ridley take me away to a far away and mysterious world full of wonder, adventure and danger. He will suspend my disbelief and I will enjoy and soak it in and be afraid of strange other-worldly things in the dark, believing I may be the next victim. Seatbelt fastened. Popcorn in hand. I am ready to scream again.
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Speaking of Scott....

'Blade Runner' Sequel: Hampton Fancher Will Pen Follow-Up To Ridley Scott's Classic
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The "Blade Runner" continuation that has been discussed since last year is officially a sequel.

On Thursday, Alcon Entertainment announced that Hampton Fancher, the original writer of "Blade Runner" (which was adapted from the Philip K. Dick novel "Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?"), is working on a follow-up to Ridley Scott's landmark sci-fi film. The "Blade Runner" sequel will take place "some years after the first film concluded."

When Alcon acquired the rights to "Blade Runner" in March of 2011, the production company (an off-shoot of Warner Bros.) was given free rein to make either a prequel or a sequel to Scott's film, but not a remake.

"In no way do I speak for Ridley Scott," Alcon Entertainment president Andrew Kosove told the Los Angeles Times in August of 2011. "But if you're asking me will this movie have anything to do with Harrison Ford, the answer is no. This is a total reinvention, and in my mind that means doing everything fresh, including casting."

About that: Back in February of this year, rumors surfaced that Harrison Ford was in discussions to join the new "Blade Runner," but whether that comes to pass remains to be seen.

For his part, Scott seems excited about the direction of "Blade Runner 2."

"Funny enough, I started my first meetings on the Blade Runner sequel last week," he told The Daily Beast. "We have a very good take on it. And we’ll definitely be featuring a female protagonist."

That would put "Blade Runner 2" in league with other Scott films like "Thelma and Louise," "Hannibal," and -- most famously -- "Alien." Scott returns to the "Alien" universe with "Prometheus" (a non-prequel prequel to his 1979 film), out in theaters on June 8.
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Speaking of Scott....
'Blade Runner' Sequel: Hampton Fancher Will Pen Follow-Up To Ridley Scott's Classic

I distinctly remember seeing Blade Runner at the time of its release, sitting in a half empty theatre on opening weekend, watching a depressing film.
Almost no one known to me at that time wanted to see a dark brooding film about a depressing future and this was when Harrison Ford was Box Office Gold.
Ford or no Ford, it did not appeal to most people. I also remember it being a box office flop.
Just before typing this I did a quick check on IMDB. This may be of interest: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/business
Now personally, I recognize this film as one of Ridley Scotts many masterpieces. The score by Vangelis alone is worth the price of admission. It is a technicalogical marvel of its time and still holds up exceptionally well today. It was way ahead of its time. The problem I see with this planned sequel-prequel, as with any other, is the fact that it will be directly compared to the original. With 30 years to rest on its laurels, the original, and the admiration we have grown to hold for it, will be extremely hard to match, let alone better. I hope I am wrong, but this new project hasn't a hope without Ridley directly at the helm.
post #219 of 689
Blade Runner isn't a very good movie. I'd even hesitate to say it's good at all.
post #220 of 689

Dude...

 

lefty

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I don't get you people
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It's no AvP (or even Alien Resurrection) but I thought Blade Runner had its moments.
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I for one, am going to be a teenager again with this film. I am not going to allow myself to anticipate or compare to ALIEN but let uncle Ridley take me away to a far away and mysterious world full of wonder, adventure and danger. He will suspend my disbelief and I will enjoy and soak it in and be afraid of strange other-worldly things in the dark, believing I may be the next victim. Seatbelt fastened. Popcorn in hand. I am ready to scream again.
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