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post #16 of 513
Can we get a list of places to kop them as well. I don't remember seeing all the pieces on JIL website. Should have just included all the balla houses here and called it the The Swagger Thread...affordability not considered.
post #17 of 513
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by A Fellow Linguist View Post

They are actually knits.
Does anyone have hi res Virginia Creeper pics? Also Jil women's has been good lately.

I'm frankly pretty confused here. Oki-ni describes the dark blue sweater as 'woven' whereas LVR describes the light blue sweater as 'knit' . Those are not versions of the same sweater though, the light blue is 100% cotton and the dark blue partly nylon.

I did a reverse image search but, alas, didn't find any pictures higher-res than these
post #18 of 513
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by palma View Post

Can we get a list of places to kop them as well. I don't remember seeing all the pieces on JIL website.

My lists of stockists, some have empty stock atm but may replenish in the future. Additions welcome!
Fashionsauce and labelfinder also have good lists


JIL
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Retailer URL
Aloha Rag http://www.aloharag.com/highseas/dept.asp?s_id=0&dept_name=JIL+SANDER&dept_id=5239&WT.svl=deptnav2
APROPOS http://www.apropos-store.com/shopby/designer/detail/filter/682/?limit=54
Barneys http://www.barneys.com/Mens/MENS04,default,sc.html?prefn1=designer&prefv1=Jil%20Sander#&sz=121
Bergdorf Goodman http://www.bergdorfgoodman.com/search.jhtml?Ntt=jil+sander&_requestid=34&Ns=SELLABLE_DATE|1&N=4294966910
Boutique 1 http://www.boutique1.com/index.php/mens.html?brand_name=620&limit=150
boutique.ru http://www.boutique.ru/jil-sander/
Browns http://www.brownsfashion.com/Products/Sale/Men/JIL_SANDER/Products.aspx?&d=2439594&pc=633325&cl=2&ppc=633315
Designs by Stephene W http://www.designsbystephene.com/jil-sander/
Farfetch http://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/search/schid-6a696c2073616e646572/items.aspx?q=jil+sander
Harvey Nichols http://www.harveynichols.com/factfinder/search/result/?filterbrand=Jil%2BSander&productsPerPage=all&q=Jil+Sander
JIL SANDER e-STORE http://store.jilsander.com/navigation.asp?tskay=53F34A8E#/home/gender/U/season/main
Laboratorio35 http://www.laboratorio35.com/View-Other-Designers/#Jil-Sander
LN-CC http://www.ln-cc.com/men/jil-sander/icat/jil-sander-mens/
LVR http://www.luisaviaroma.com/index.aspx?#getData.aspx|CallType=ListOfProd&des=382&cat=&season=actual&gender=men&group=&subline=&fromLinkDesHtm=undefined&fromTrend=false&trend=&SortType=0
MAENDLER http://www.maendler.com/de/men/designermarken/jil-sander-man?limit=all
MR PORTER http://www.mrporter.com/Shop/Designers/Jil_Sander
NAP W http://www.net-a-porter.com/Shop/Designers/Jil_Sander/All
Neiman Marcus http://www.neimanmarcus.com/search.jhtml?Ntt=jil+sander&_requestid=7677&Ns=SELLABLE_DATE|1&N=4294966789
Nitty Gritty http://www.nittygrittystore.com/brand/category-shop/jilsander
OKI-NI http://www.oki-ni.com/mens/jil-sander/icat/jilsander/
Rakuten * http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E3%82%B8%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC/-/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
Saks http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductArray.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374306418052&Ns=P_arrivaldate|1||P_306418052_sort||P_brandname||P_product_code&N=4294911968+306418052
SelfRidges http://www.selfridges.com/en/Menswear/Brand-rooms/Contemporary-designer/JIL-SANDER/?brandname=JIL+SANDER&departmentId=19516
Shopbop W http://www.shopbop.com/jil-sander/br/v=1/2534374302174659.htm
SSENSE http://www.ssense.com/men/designers/jil_sander
Sydney's http://www.shopsydneys.com/shop/category/collections/jil-sander/
The Corner http://www.thecorner.com/THECORNER/JIL+SANDER/men/fall/winter%202011-12/searchResult/ene_m/4294966931/ipp/30/gender/U/toll/A/tskay/7B4C1203/dept/tcman
ThreeDifferent FW http://www.threedifferent.com/online-clothes-sales/0/men/0/181/1/0/0/1/Jil-Sander-men.asp
Totokaelo W http://totokaelo.com/store/designers/jil-sander
Tres Bien http://www.tresbienshop.net/brand/jil-sander/about/
Verso http://www.verso.com/men/shop-by-designer/?brand=35
yjp http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UTF-8&p=%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA&slider=0&tab_ex=commerce&auccat=2084050247
yjp http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/%E7%94%B7%E6%80%A7%E7%94%A8-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%AB-%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC-%E3%81%97-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E5%88%A5-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3/2084056229/?p=%E7%94%B7%E6%80%A7%E7%94%A8&tab_ex=commerce&rkf=1&n=100&mode=1&slider=0
yjp other http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/%E7%94%B7%E6%80%A7%E7%94%A8-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%AB-%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC-%E3%81%97-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E5%88%A5-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3/2084056246/?p=%E3%81%9D%E3%81%AE%E4%BB%96&tab_ex=commerce&rkf=1&n=100&mode=1&slider=0
Yoox F+S http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.asp/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/dept/men/type/1/textsearch/jil+sander/toll/OFF/ipp/40#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=200&ene_designer=4294966931&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=&last=ene_designer&last=
Yoox shoes http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.asp/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/dept/men/type/1/textsearch/jil+sander/toll/OFF/ipp/40#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=200&ene_designer=&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=cat_44&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=jil_____sander&last=macromicro_yoox
Zappos http://couture.zappos.com/n/es/d/722699442/order_by/age_asc/page/1.html

RAF Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Aloha Rag http://www.aloharag.com/highseas/dept.asp?dept_name=RAF+SIMONS&dept_id=7666&s_id=0&WT.svl=deptnav2
Arthur http://www.arthur.gr.jp/cgis/RAF+SIMONS.html
Attachment http://www.arthur.gr.jp/tsuhan/cgis/attachment.html
Barneys http://www.barneys.com/Barneys-New-York/BARNEYS,default,sc.html?prefn1=designer&prefv1=Raf%20Simons
BLAST http://www.basement-inc.jp/bmt/raf/
Buyself http://item.rakuten.co.jp/buyself/c/0000000105/
Diabro http://diabro.net/index.php/cPath/193_854
Farfetch http://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/raf-simons/items.aspx
Forward http://www.forwardforward.com/fwd/Brands.jsp?d=M&c=Raf+Simons
LAZZARI http://www.lazzariweb.it/shop/index.php?manufacturers_id=43&osCsid=b8672f6636bafccf6b33f8f6c8436695
LN-CC http://www.ln-cc.com/browse/sale-mens?ex=co_wizr-locayta&collate=ivtype&collate=price&collate=brand&collate=pdxtcolour&collate=atrxsize&collate=atrxcolour&refine_sort_alph=ivtype&refine_sort_alph=price&refine_sort_alph=brand&refine_sort_alph=pdxtcolour&sortname=ascending&sortrelease=ascending&sortprice=disabled&sortorder=name%3Arelease%3Aprice&fieldcatrestrict=xancestorid&termtextcatrestrict=shop&typecatrestrict=exact&fieldrtype=type&termtextrtype=invt&typertype=exact&fieldpcatid=pcatid&typepcatid=exact&termorder=catrestrict%3Artype%3Apcatid&template=wz_locayta&pagenum=1&perpage=24&threshold=0&spellcorrect=1&datasource=latenightcatcafeen&setpagenum=1&termtextbrand=Raf%20Simons&typebrand=exact&fieldbrand=brand&bklist=icat,4,shop,mens,sale-mens
LVR http://www.luisaviaroma.com/index.aspx?#getData.aspx|CallType=ListOfProd&des=107&cat=&season=sale&gender=men&group=&subline=&fromLinkDesHtm=undefined&fromTrend=false&trend=&SortType=0
MR PORTER http://www.mrporter.com/Shop/Designers/Raf_Simons
Nitty Gritty http://www.nittygrittystore.com/brand/rafsimons
OKI-NI http://www.oki-ni.com/mens/raf-simons/icat/rafsimons/
PARK http://www.park-onlinestore.com/shop/raf-simons-m-1.html
Park & Bond http://www.parkandbond.com/products/search?designer=raf-simons
Por Vocacao https://www.porvocacao.com/shop/brands/raf-simons/
Rakuten shoes http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA/%E9%9D%B4-558885/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
Rakuten accs http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA/%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%B0%E3%83%BB%E5%B0%8F%E7%89%A9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E9%9B%91%E8%B2%A8-216131/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
Rakuten clo http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E9%9D%B4-551177/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
Seven http://sevennewyork.com/men/mens-designers/raf-simons?limit=all
Space http://www.spacetokyo.jp/item_list/bd-00602_od-0_lm-36_pg-1.html
SSENSE http://www.ssense.com/men/designers/raf_simons
The Corner http://www.thecorner.com/raf-simons/department/gender/U/tskay/7B4C1203/dept/tcrafsimonsm
ThreeDifferent http://www.threedifferent.com/online-clothes-sales/0/men/0/29/1/0/0/1/Raf-Simons-men.asp
yjp Other http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA-%E3%82%89-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E5%88%A5-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3/2084205004/?n=100&p=%E3%81%9D%E3%81%AE%E4%BB%96&tab_ex=commerce&auccat=2084205004&rkf=1&mode=1&slider=0
yjp shoes http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UTF-8&p=%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA&oq=&n=100&slider=0&tab_ex=commerce&auccat=23200
Yoox F+S http://www.yoox.com/YOOX/RAF+SIMONS/men/fall-winter/searchResult/dept/men/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/mm/139/ipp/40/toll/A#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=40&ene_designer=4294965552&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=&last=sort
Yoox knit http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.asp/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/dept/men/type/1/textsearch/RAF+SIMONS/toll/OFF/ipp/40#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=200&ene_designer=&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=cat_39&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=RAF_____SIMONS&last=macromicro_yoox
Yoox shoes http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.asp/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/dept/men/type/1/textsearch/RAF+SIMONS/toll/OFF/ipp/40#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=200&ene_designer=&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=cat_44&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=RAF_____SIMONS&last=macromicro_yoox

Edited by _yoo - 12/29/11 at 10:12pm
post #19 of 513
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Originally Posted by _yoo View Post

My list of stockists, some have empty stock atm but may replenish in the future. Additions welcome!
Fashionsauce and labelfinder also have good lists

JIL
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Retailer URL
Aloha Rag http://www.aloharag.com/highseas/dept.asp?s_id=0&dept_name=JIL+SANDER&dept_id=5239&WT.svl=deptnav2
APROPOS http://www.apropos-store.com/shopby/designer/detail/filter/682/?limit=54
Barneys http://www.barneys.com/Mens/MENS04,default,sc.html?prefn1=designer&prefv1=Jil%20Sander#&sz=121
Bergdorf Goodman http://www.bergdorfgoodman.com/search.jhtml?Ntt=jil+sander&_requestid=34&Ns=SELLABLE_DATE|1&N=4294966910
Boutique 1 http://www.boutique1.com/index.php/mens.html?brand_name=620&limit=150
boutique.ru http://www.boutique.ru/jil-sander/
Browns http://www.brownsfashion.com/Products/Sale/Men/JIL_SANDER/Products.aspx?&d=2439594&pc=633325&cl=2&ppc=633315
Designs by Stephene W http://www.designsbystephene.com/jil-sander/
Farfetch http://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/search/schid-6a696c2073616e646572/items.aspx?q=jil+sander
Harvey Nichols http://www.harveynichols.com/factfinder/search/result/?filterbrand=Jil%2BSander&productsPerPage=all&q=Jil+Sander
JIL SANDER e-STORE http://store.jilsander.com/navigation.asp?tskay=53F34A8E#/home/gender/U/season/main
Laboratorio35 http://www.laboratorio35.com/View-Other-Designers/#Jil-Sander
LN-CC http://www.ln-cc.com/men/jil-sander/icat/jil-sander-mens/
LVR http://www.luisaviaroma.com/index.aspx?#getData.aspx|CallType=ListOfProd&des=382&cat=&season=actual&gender=men&group=&subline=&fromLinkDesHtm=undefined&fromTrend=false&trend=&SortType=0
MAENDLER http://www.maendler.com/de/men/designermarken/jil-sander-man?limit=all
MR PORTER http://www.mrporter.com/Shop/Designers/Jil_Sander
NAP W http://www.net-a-porter.com/Shop/Designers/Jil_Sander/All
Neiman Marcus http://www.neimanmarcus.com/search.jhtml?Ntt=jil+sander&_requestid=7677&Ns=SELLABLE_DATE|1&N=4294966789
Nitty Gritty http://www.nittygrittystore.com/brand/category-shop/jilsander
OKI-NI http://www.oki-ni.com/mens/jil-sander/icat/jilsander/
Rakuten * http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E3%82%B8%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC/-/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
Saks http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductArray.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374306418052&Ns=P_arrivaldate|1||P_306418052_sort||P_brandname||P_product_code&N=4294911968+306418052
SelfRidges http://www.selfridges.com/en/Menswear/Brand-rooms/Contemporary-designer/JIL-SANDER/?brandname=JIL+SANDER&departmentId=19516
Shopbop W http://www.shopbop.com/jil-sander/br/v=1/2534374302174659.htm
SSENSE http://www.ssense.com/men/designers/jil_sander
Sydney's http://www.shopsydneys.com/shop/category/collections/jil-sander/
The Corner http://www.thecorner.com/THECORNER/JIL+SANDER/men/fall/winter%202011-12/searchResult/ene_m/4294966931/ipp/30/gender/U/toll/A/tskay/7B4C1203/dept/tcman
ThreeDifferent FW http://www.threedifferent.com/online-clothes-sales/0/men/0/181/1/0/0/1/Jil-Sander-men.asp
Totokaelo W http://totokaelo.com/store/designers/jil-sander
Tres Bien http://www.tresbienshop.net/brand/jil-sander/about/
Verso http://www.verso.com/men/shop-by-designer/?brand=35
yjp http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UTF-8&p=%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA&slider=0&tab_ex=commerce&auccat=2084050247
yjp http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/%E7%94%B7%E6%80%A7%E7%94%A8-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%AB-%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC-%E3%81%97-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E5%88%A5-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3/2084056229/?p=%E7%94%B7%E6%80%A7%E7%94%A8&tab_ex=commerce&rkf=1&n=100&mode=1&slider=0
yjp other http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/%E7%94%B7%E6%80%A7%E7%94%A8-%E3%82%B8%E3%83%AB-%E3%82%B5%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%BC-%E3%81%97-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E5%88%A5-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3/2084056246/?p=%E3%81%9D%E3%81%AE%E4%BB%96&tab_ex=commerce&rkf=1&n=100&mode=1&slider=0
Yoox F+S http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.asp/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/dept/men/type/1/textsearch/jil+sander/toll/OFF/ipp/40#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=200&ene_designer=4294966931&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=&last=ene_designer&last=
Yoox shoes http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.asp/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/dept/men/type/1/textsearch/jil+sander/toll/OFF/ipp/40#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=200&ene_designer=&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=cat_44&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=jil_____sander&last=macromicro_yoox
Zappos http://couture.zappos.com/n/es/d/722699442/order_by/age_asc/page/1.html
RAF Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Aloha Rag http://www.aloharag.com/highseas/dept.asp?dept_name=RAF+SIMONS&dept_id=7666&s_id=0&WT.svl=deptnav2
Arthur http://www.arthur.gr.jp/cgis/RAF+SIMONS.html
Attachment http://www.arthur.gr.jp/tsuhan/cgis/attachment.html
Barneys http://www.barneys.com/Barneys-New-York/BARNEYS,default,sc.html?prefn1=designer&prefv1=Raf%20Simons
BLAST http://www.basement-inc.jp/bmt/raf/
Buyself http://item.rakuten.co.jp/buyself/c/0000000105/
Diabro http://diabro.net/index.php/cPath/193_854
Farfetch http://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/raf-simons/items.aspx
Forward http://www.forwardforward.com/fwd/Brands.jsp?d=M&c=Raf+Simons
LAZZARI http://www.lazzariweb.it/shop/index.php?manufacturers_id=43&osCsid=b8672f6636bafccf6b33f8f6c8436695
LN-CC http://www.ln-cc.com/browse/sale-mens?ex=co_wizr-locayta&collate=ivtype&collate=price&collate=brand&collate=pdxtcolour&collate=atrxsize&collate=atrxcolour&refine_sort_alph=ivtype&refine_sort_alph=price&refine_sort_alph=brand&refine_sort_alph=pdxtcolour&sortname=ascending&sortrelease=ascending&sortprice=disabled&sortorder=name%3Arelease%3Aprice&fieldcatrestrict=xancestorid&termtextcatrestrict=shop&typecatrestrict=exact&fieldrtype=type&termtextrtype=invt&typertype=exact&fieldpcatid=pcatid&typepcatid=exact&termorder=catrestrict%3Artype%3Apcatid&template=wz_locayta&pagenum=1&perpage=24&threshold=0&spellcorrect=1&datasource=latenightcatcafeen&setpagenum=1&termtextbrand=Raf%20Simons&typebrand=exact&fieldbrand=brand&bklist=icat,4,shop,mens,sale-mens
LVR http://www.luisaviaroma.com/index.aspx?#getData.aspx|CallType=ListOfProd&des=107&cat=&season=sale&gender=men&group=&subline=&fromLinkDesHtm=undefined&fromTrend=false&trend=&SortType=0
MR PORTER http://www.mrporter.com/Shop/Designers/Raf_Simons
Nitty Gritty http://www.nittygrittystore.com/brand/rafsimons
OKI-NI http://www.oki-ni.com/mens/raf-simons/icat/rafsimons/
PARK http://www.park-onlinestore.com/shop/raf-simons-m-1.html
Park & Bond http://www.parkandbond.com/products/search?designer=raf-simons
Por Vocacao https://www.porvocacao.com/shop/brands/raf-simons/
Rakuten shoes http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA/%E9%9D%B4-558885/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
Rakuten accs http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA/%E3%83%90%E3%83%83%E3%82%B0%E3%83%BB%E5%B0%8F%E7%89%A9%E3%83%BB%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E9%9B%91%E8%B2%A8-216131/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
Rakuten clo http://search.rakuten.co.jp/search/mall/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA/%E3%83%A1%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3%E3%83%BB%E9%9D%B4-551177/f.1-p.1-s.3-sf.1-st.O-v.3
Seven http://sevennewyork.com/men/mens-designers/raf-simons?limit=all
Space http://www.spacetokyo.jp/item_list/bd-00602_od-0_lm-36_pg-1.html
SSENSE http://www.ssense.com/men/designers/raf_simons
The Corner http://www.thecorner.com/raf-simons/department/gender/U/tskay/7B4C1203/dept/tcrafsimonsm
ThreeDifferent http://www.threedifferent.com/online-clothes-sales/0/men/0/29/1/0/0/1/Raf-Simons-men.asp
yjp Other http://category.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/list/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA-%E3%82%89-%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E5%88%A5-%E3%83%95%E3%82%A1%E3%83%83%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A7%E3%83%B3/2084205004/?n=100&p=%E3%81%9D%E3%81%AE%E4%BB%96&tab_ex=commerce&auccat=2084205004&rkf=1&mode=1&slider=0
yjp shoes http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/search?ei=UTF-8&p=%E3%83%A9%E3%83%95%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A2%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BA&oq=&n=100&slider=0&tab_ex=commerce&auccat=23200
Yoox F+S http://www.yoox.com/YOOX/RAF+SIMONS/men/fall-winter/searchResult/dept/men/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/mm/139/ipp/40/toll/A#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=40&ene_designer=4294965552&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=&last=sort
Yoox knit http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.asp/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/dept/men/type/1/textsearch/RAF+SIMONS/toll/OFF/ipp/40#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=200&ene_designer=&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=cat_39&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=RAF_____SIMONS&last=macromicro_yoox
Yoox shoes http://www.yoox.com/searchresult.asp/gender/U/tskay/3FD17CD7/dept/men/type/1/textsearch/RAF+SIMONS/toll/OFF/ipp/40#pg=1&sort=2&ipp=200&ene_designer=&ene_macrodesigner_descr=&macromicro_yoox=cat_44&color=&waist=&wash=&silhouette=&Environment=&IdAuthor=&size=&spr_code=&textSearch=RAF_____SIMONS&last=macromicro_yoox

Wow, nice. This should be in the first post IMO.
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^Good point, I'll update the first post with links when thread is sufficiently enriched. I also need to edit those lists a bit for readability
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I'm frankly pretty confused here. Oki-ni describes the dark blue sweater as 'woven' whereas LVR describes the light blue sweater as 'knit' . Those are not versions of the same sweater though, the light blue is 100% cotton and the dark blue partly nylon.
I did a reverse image search but, alas, didn't find any pictures higher-res than these

The dark blue one looks knit to me, I can't imagine why they're calling it woven. You can pretty clearly see where they've cast on/bound off.
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The dark blue one looks knit to me, I can't imagine why they're calling it woven. You can pretty clearly see where they've cast on/bound off.

I did a bit of googling but to no avail - will defer to you though since you're the resident knit specialist! alien.gif

In other news, there's an aw09 neoprene coat in SUFU b&s right now, my size too, so tempted.

It's the version with blue as opposed to cream sleeves
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in the infamous suit-dominated collection. Hapsical's comment is pertinent:
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In fall/winter 2009 (and again in spring/summer 2010) Simons shocked us all by doing what seemed to be his most conservative collections to date (albeit subverted with Neoprene parts in f/w09). Both of these collections received a lukewarm reception online (including on this blog): it seemed at first as if Simons had abandoned his youth cultural touch, and was perhaps being ‘recession friendly’ by designing more accessible, conservative clothes. Since then I have revised my views on both collections, and I no longer see them as some alarming, negative development for Simons, largely because of the explanation he gave in an interview with Arena Homme Plus magazine recently:

“I don’t like the way they [the collections] are being dismissed as “commercial” or that I am consciously designing for “old men.” What’s wrong with including older people as well?... I don’t like to think that an audience feels as if I am abandoning them. I am not: these formal elements have always been in my work, always. I wish people would really look into the history. Also to dress like this when you are young – and I am showing these clothes on young guys – for me feels more subversive now.”

Cathy Horyn's review of AW09 is also worth reading
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The suits and the coats are slim but the fit seems more accessible and mature, and Simons is now making all the clothes in Italy. It shows in the quality of the materials and construction. Lots of designers explore tailoring but the results are often tortured or uninteresting or superficial. You don’t see what the designer means for us to see, or if there is remotely a valid connection to a young man’s life. Still photos will probably not capture the vital difference in this show, though maybe they will.

RAF SIMONS Fall 2009
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Re: Raf

Raf was the first designer I really liked, I remember my first good kop was a graphic metallic neck from FW08, from Count Kunkula.

I've got quite a few Raf knits, some pants, tried the sneaks but not my style 100%. I would definitely buy more Raf in the future, if his seasons get better as they have.

Would still love some Rothko knits and some metallic crew necks.

Re: Jil

Fell into Jil after Raf and I usually kop 1 or 2 cardigans per season, sometimes a pullover. I have two of the famous keyhole knits (black/white melange on its way and grey/white melange kopped from ages ago) and the oversized metallic collar cardigan. I got two pairs of shoes and a pair of boots, quality is quite good, far better then Margiela.

Would definitely buy heaps more Jil. Will kop 1-2 cardigans a season and maybe some outerwear if I find the right piece.
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Could someone explain the whole 'raf/jil is dead' sentiment to me? Is it just his collections have got worse or is there more to it? It seems like I read words to that effect fairly frequently, but I'm never really sure why (noob shog[1].gif )
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Could someone explain the whole 'raf/jil is dead' sentiment to me? Is it just his collections have got worse or is there more to it? It seems like I read words to that effect fairly frequently, but I'm never really sure why (noob shog[1].gif )

In the early 00s Raf made some really stunning collections with strong youth culture and futurist influences. S/s 02, otherwise known as "Woe Unto Those Who Spit On The Fear Generation . . .The Wind Will Blow It Back" is usually considered his best work. F/w 02 "Virginia Creeper" is my favorite, though, and I think S/s 04 "May the Circle Be Unbroken" is underrated.

S/S 02 looks like this:
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Really bold, interesting stuff. Lately though, his shows have been a lot more tame and for lack of a better word, less Raf-y. More suits, knits, and other basic stuff that normal people might want to wear. A lot of people think he's sold out and become more commercial, but IMO the recent collections are still quite good. He uses more couture-like shapes, and relies less on what some might consider gimmicks, like the flares from s/s02, the forest presentation of f/w 02, etc. To me it seems like the people saying "Raf is dead" are usually only familiar with the really extreme stuff from "Woe Unto Those. . .", "Consumed", "Closer", etc. The more recent seasons are pretty similar to his earlier stuff, from the mid to late 90s. F/w 2011, "Rise of the Craftsman" is, to me, like a refined version of F/w 95, his first collection. Same focus on tailoring, school uniform influence, etc. I suck at embedding videos so here.
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I think a lot of people bought into Raf as being avant garde and he got really tailored in his collections after 08 or so, after the Rothko knits?

Quite a few seasons were pretty bad IMO, but last was better so there is hope.

At one point people said Jil men's was the new Raf mainline. Certainly was better for some time.
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I think a lot of people bought into Raf as being avant garde and he got really tailored in his collections after 08 or so, after the Rothko knits?
Quite a few seasons were pretty bad IMO, but last was better so there is hope.
At one point people said Jil men's was the new Raf mainline. Certainly was better for some time.

Tbh I get recent Jil and Raf collections mixed up in my head a lot, so I can see the argument for that. For a while I thought that Jil collection with the Lambie inspired prints was Raf. And if we're talking about bad Raf seasons, there a quite a few beyond the recent ones. I think Black Palms is terrible. People often cite that Raf beach towel as a sign of his downfall, but nobody ever mentions the stupid Raf x Coca-Cola collab from 98 or whenever it was.

300

ugh.
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Could someone explain the whole 'raf/jil is dead' sentiment to me? Is it just his collections have got worse or is there more to it? It seems like I read words to that effect fairly frequently, but I'm never really sure why (noob shog[1].gif )


The short answer:  people who are trying to be hip and trendy go around spouting such nonsense, and media "tastemakers" just add to the problem when they get bored and can't figure out anything else to write about.  Ignore them and live better.

 

 

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Some other Raf interviews/features I bookmarked, ordered by recency
WWD▮10/28/2011▮Marc KarimZadeh▮A New York Minute With Raf Simons
WSJ▮8/25/2011▮Whitney Vargas▮The Show of the Season
Vogue UK▮7/25/2011▮Jessica Bumpus▮Simons Says
Style.com▮6/15/2010▮Maya Singer▮Raf Simons: Fashion Should Be “Hard To Grasp, Hard To Find”
Love▮SS2011▮Murray Healy▮Acrylic Afternoons
Interview▮11/26/2008▮Kanye West▮Raf Simons
Guardian▮1/29/2008▮Alice Fisher▮The geek who conquered the fashion world
i-D Magazine▮2005/6▮Terry Jones▮Future Perfect 1 2

Awesome, thanks for those links, great morning coffee reading!  By the way the detail in those sweaters is amazing, really beautiful, with prices to match I'm sure!
 

 

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I'm frankly pretty confused here. Oki-ni describes the dark blue sweater as 'woven' whereas LVR describes the light blue sweater as 'knit' . Those are not versions of the same sweater though, the light blue is 100% cotton and the dark blue partly nylon.
I did a reverse image search but, alas, didn't find any pictures higher-res than these

The dark blue one looks knit to me, I can't imagine why they're calling it woven. You can pretty clearly see where they've cast on/bound off.

The dark blue one on oki-ni I think is woven
The light blue one on LVR I think is first woven(the orange part) and then blue knitted.
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