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post #886 of 4925
4/5/12 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by Ivwri View Post


I think any tags that don't have "women's" still refer to the women's collection. All the men's pieces I have seen are all "Pour Homme"

You should do it. I also hesitated for the longest time on it, but it is indeed a really nice jacket and the linen is very nice and light too.

i am really torn, will debate it some while longer and hope it doesn't sell [/APK] tongue.gif

but the jacket is Y's , it wouldn't say "Pour Homme" anyway. Y's has women's too , you see, and it says so on the tag.

mens: Y's or Y's for men ?
women: Y's femme (or something like that)

well you can decide tomorrow devil.gif
Edited by the shah - 4/5/12 at 10:24am
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post #887 of 4925
4/5/12 at 10:20am
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Ah ok. Well, that's definitely more confusing. I have seen Y's for men that does not have the qualifier as well. biggrin.gif
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post #888 of 4925
4/5/12 at 11:09am
Yohji's knits are indeed really good. I've got a colour block knit with varying weaves that's easily one of my favourite pieces in my wardrobe.
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post #889 of 4925
4/5/12 at 11:11am

Yes, the Y's mens and womens can be confusing. Very early Y's (men) just said "Y's" but had a green tag, making them easier to differentiate. Later pieces were labeled "y's for men", making it much easier still. The most recent men's are just labeled "Y's" again, leading to more confusion. Of the later pieces, I have seen women's tags that look identical to the men's. Plus the women's line is typically meant to be more masculine. The best way to tell, if you really care, is to look at the materials tag. Labels starting in M are Y's for men, labels starting in Y are for women. The cuts can be quite similar, and I am sure yoox and ebay listers have made the mistake on more than one occasion.

 

On another note, I'll try to post a pic of one of my anime sweaters later tonight.

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post #890 of 4925
4/5/12 at 11:42am
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Originally Posted by stadsvandringar View Post

Yes, the Y's mens and womens can be confusing. Very early Y's (men) just said "Y's" but had a green tag, making them easier to differentiate. Later pieces were labeled "y's for men", making it much easier still. The most recent men's are just labeled "Y's" again, leading to more confusion. Of the later pieces, I have seen women's tags that look identical to the men's. Plus the women's line is typically meant to be more masculine. The best way to tell, if you really care, is to look at the materials tag. Labels starting in M are Y's for men, labels starting in Y are for women. The cuts can be quite similar, and I am sure yoox and ebay listers have made the mistake on more than one occasion.

On another note, I'll try to post a pic of one of my anime sweaters later tonight.

Yeah, this is how you do it. Remember there are several Y's lines for men and at least two of them are not differentiating between mens and womens on the label. The "aggressive" Y's is the runway line up until SS06 or so? Shown at the same time as YYPH until and incl SS05. Then there's the regular Y's tag, I think it's a square black tag with a brown/khaki Y's character? The 'dyed' khaki Y's for men tags also signifies runway items. The thinner olive colored one is the regular Y's for men tag that has been around since forever. There was also a black one in the same strip shape that was a more formal sub-line, now discontinued? There was also the strip shaped tag in grey in the late 00's- Oh, and the red label Y's that was based on Yohji's wardrobe and got discontinued a while back.

The women's is white on black, looks slightly different that the men's line.
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post #891 of 4925
4/5/12 at 11:50am
Hopefully i'm not blowing up anyone's spot by posting this but I wanted to know if this could potentially fit me?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/YS-FOR-MEN-YOHJI-YAMAMOTO-MILLED-BLACK-WOOL-WHITE-STITCHED-SHORT-BUTTONS-JACKET-/320878962990?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item4ab5e0692e#ht_500wt_1204

it's tagged 3 but they state it would fit a large. I am OK with the fit not being oversized, and if it fit like a normal fitted coat I would be happy.

I am a 43.75" chest when I measured yesterday and they state the chest is 44-45, and I stand 6'1. Could it fit?

Also, what style coat is this called where the hem is cut away like that?


EDIT: which season? any runway/fit pics?
Edited by aether - 4/5/12 at 12:02pm
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post #892 of 4925
4/5/12 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by aether View Post

Hopefully i'm not blowing up anyone's spot by posting this but I wanted to know if this could potentially fit me?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/YS-FOR-MEN-YOHJI-YAMAMOTO-MILLED-BLACK-WOOL-WHITE-STITCHED-SHORT-BUTTONS-JACKET-/320878962990?pt=US_CSA_MC_Outerwear&hash=item4ab5e0692e#ht_500wt_1204
it's tagged 3 but they state it would fit a large. I am OK with the fit not being oversized, and if it fit like a normal fitted coat I would be happy.
I am a 43.75" chest when I measured yesterday and they state the chest is 44-45, and I stand 6'1. Could it fit?

Hmm, in general with your measurements I would advise for a size 4 but this does seem to be cut quite large, so you might be lucky with this. Won't be oversized on you. If you want a more 'true' YY fit you should definitely try to go for 4 in most cases.


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Also, what style coat is this called where the hem is cut away like that?

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EDIT: which season? any runway/fit pics?

Pretty sure this is AW03 but I can't say without seeing the tag code. This wasn't on the runway but some jackets with similar detailing was, however with a different tag (see above) which makes me a little unsure.
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post #893 of 4925
4/5/12 at 1:42pm
Apologies for derailing the conversation, but I heard this in passing today and honestly thought they were singing 'Yohji Yamamoto' rotflmao.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npu9uUj1Uvo
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post #894 of 4925
4/5/12 at 2:16pm
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Originally Posted by asobu View Post


Yeah, this is how you do it. Remember there are several Y's lines for men and at least two of them are not differentiating between mens and womens on the label. The "aggressive" Y's is the runway line up until SS06 or so? Shown at the same time as YYPH until and incl SS05. Then there's the regular Y's tag, I think it's a square black tag with a brown/khaki Y's character? The 'dyed' khaki Y's for men tags also signifies runway items. The thinner olive colored one is the regular Y's for men tag that has been around since forever. There was also a black one in the same strip shape that was a more formal sub-line, now discontinued? There was also the strip shaped tag in grey in the late 00's- Oh, and the red label Y's that was based on Yohji's wardrobe and got discontinued a while back.

The women's is white on black, looks slightly different that the men's line.

ok here we go:
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post #895 of 4925
4/5/12 at 2:26pm
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

ok here we go:

yes!



edit: ok, in addition, like this (sort of):
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y's red label/runway line

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y's runway line

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y's for men runway/lookbook

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y's for men "black" line (more formal, I think)

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y's for men "regular" line

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there's also a grey/silver version of the last two


Edited by asobu - 4/5/12 at 2:48pm
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post #896 of 4925
4/5/12 at 3:00pm
Thread Starter 
That's great reference asobu, will be saving those pics. Hehe. That reminds me, I really have to update the OP with some of this stuff...musicboohoo[1].gif

I finally got the wool gabardine hakama pants from Drew (ordered them with the last batch of stuff, but they were not at the store and they had to get them in) and they are actually more different from the cotton jersey ones I received earlier than I thought. The pleating on these is of course more structured because of the fabric and they are wider. There are four pockets - 2 side pockets and 2 rear pockets - on the wool gab ones, the cotton ones only have two side pockets. I think the wool gab ones are also slightly longer but I haven't compared them yet. Really like the way they look and feel in motion.

As always construction is top notch and the wool gab is great. They are the ones in look 37, not sure whether these are the same as the ones wire has. Will put up pics of them side-by-side tomorrow if anyone's interested.
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post #897 of 4925
4/5/12 at 3:31pm
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Originally Posted by the shah View Post

naija boy ! i have been monitoring that same jacket you posted in last fit, i wasn't sure about the little dash of color on the lapel, but it's available to me in size 3 ... and now i want it smile.gif


did Shah just use that word. fistbump.gif

 

+2mill

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post #898 of 4925
4/5/12 at 4:30pm
Whilst I am an absolute sucker for YYPH knits, I am also getting increasingly saddened by the fact that more & more of his knits are now made in China. You probably won't be able to tell the difference in quality between a MIJ and MIC knit, however to me being " Made in Japan " adds a certain degree of authenticity and therefore desirability that somehow justifies the high price.
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post #899 of 4925
4/5/12 at 4:39pm
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Originally Posted by Ivwri View Post

Really like the way they look and feel in motion.
As always construction is top notch and the wool gab is great. Will put up pics of them side-by-side tomorrow if anyone's interested.

whenever you or asobu talk about the wool gab pieces, especially in motion, i become green with envy!!

drool.gif ...can wait to see those wool gab hakamas in motion icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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i can only imagine how the buckles on the pants swing when you walk, asobu!!
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post #900 of 4925
4/5/12 at 4:59pm

I guess it's a bit much to ask the designers to pass down the savings to customers?? I have the same mentality problem when buying stuff from Ann D...Most of her garments are now produced in Portugal, Poland Morocco etc instead of Belgium and Italy. Price is still exorbitantly high yet quality has dropped drastically in the past few years....I just hope same thing won't happen to Yohji......  

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