Yohji, Or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love The Looser Fit (Yohji Yamamoto Thread) - Page 41

^ PH line no ? i am pretty sure you are a 3 , possibly even 4 since I believe you are taller than me...

anyway, I still think yohji can work fine with damir. especially newer season stuff since he's moving toward luxe tailored (-like) and it's less focused solely on drape. well i could be wrong but i tried anyway
Y's jacket damir rest (Click to show)

Yeah it was PH

Yohji fits I find are such a personal thing, by that I mean with a lot of other labels you're dictated on what you should wear and how, but as with the entire point of this thread its that gradual appreciation of 'fit' and understanding the fluidity of the meaning that Yohji offers.

I wear my cardigans and sweaters in 3s, but most of my jackets are all 2s. Pants... that probably has the biggest variance of all since the sizing label is almost just a rough guide i've found haha.

Just saying that give the 3 another go, but wear something else with more drape... can't believe i'm saying this, but it's like wearing an emotion.


...yeah fuck I actually said it.

Totally agree with Damir, i've got a few t shirts of his both from mainline and silent, goes really well with a yohji cardigan and pants.

Great post. I think it's good to raise awareness around sizing and that things can be allowed to fit differently than one is perhaps used to but I wouldn't say there a given size you have to wear, obviously the important thing is that you like wearing it whatever size it is.

Funny, when I went to the London store I ended up talking about sizing and the SAs - one of which was a woman who had been working with the company for 25 years - said I would be a 2 or 3, and was a bit hesitant to believe me when I told her that I mainly wear 4 (and 3 as well). The other SA was taller than me and wore a 2 in the gabardine coat. Admittedly that one fit quite big and size 3 was perfect on me and fit me bigger than the runway model look, sleeves to knuckles and all. I still stick by that I think it's not a good thing to size down to the smalles size you can normally "fit" if the balance is off. Looking through a few runway collections gives a pretty good indication on how jackets can fit.

But yeah, bows, 3 would be good for you. Perhaps try it on with a pair of relaxed pants and I'm sure you'll find it very wearable. Just gotta get used to it.

I talked to the SAs about sizing before I tried anything on, subsequently I tried on and loved size 4 in almost everything (hakamas x 2, silk jackets etc) but the gabardine coat, and they agreed that those fit me best when worn. Some of the cotton jackets were cut so slim that I wouldn't even be able to button a 3.

Yeah, trying on is definitely the best way to be sure but like you said I think we're looking for a similar fit and I think 3 would be good for you. Since it's a summer coat I don't plan to layer it over anything heavy, I tried it on over just a button up shirt and it felt great. Similar to the fit of the 5 button raw hem gabardine coats from AW10 if you ever tried that one, those also fit big and 3 was perfect for me.

the recurrent sizing chat hehe,

well, I can fit sz2-3-4...and I have bought and worn all these. For me it just clicks when is size 3, note that I exclusively wear YYPH with some old y's in the mix (pre06). For those mixing with others labels it might be safer to go for a more regular fit, as Ivwri said loose fit needs supporting garments that fit the same.

I don't get how on earth asobu can fit a sz 2, I mean, it feels short on me and he's way taller than I am. Sometimes I get puzzled with sa's...I've never been told I should wear other than sz 3 in Paris though.

Good to know about the slit coat, that look was my favourite from day one. I'll probably buy the hakamas in europe if they are still available in my size. Super happy with my more skirt like hakamas...but I want a second pair! The coat might be good for me in sz 3 if it fits like aw10 raw hem...I remember It was perfect for me as well ( asobu also felt great, proof that the line is about how you feel when wearing the clothing ...no sizing dictatorship!) I do wear some sleeves that are way too long and almost cover my hands...

wire, yeah, 3 would look great on you. I'm not sure if they had 4 at the store so I couldn't compare, but like I said I was a 4 in everything else and I'm sure the 4 in the gabardine coat could work very well for me, too. The SA taller than me wore a size 2 but he was going for a slightly different fit than we do, definitely more fitted. He didn't seem to like when shoulders didn't fit "normal" or whatever. He was a younger guy so he had not been wearing YY for as long as you have (nor me, probably), I guess he just had a different approach to it. I do have one jacket in sz 2, one of the first I bought so before I had a better grasp on the sizing. I would trade it for a 3 but I would never let it go, one of my favorites jackets and just too good. It's also 12 years old so the fit was just bigger in general back then.

Hehe, sizing does seem to be a recurrent topic in this thread.

Also I'd love to get my hands on of the the raw seam coats from AW10. He did it in 3 iterations, I'd take any of them but gab and cotton are my first choices. Sigh..!

did anyone here ever get hands on that blue gabardine trousers barneys had up for so long ? it was discounted quite a bit, i kept going back and forth on it, just didn't know if it was too blue. oh well, i'll never know now, but I think it would have made for a smashing spring look !

and I wonder why is he working there? I bet that I've made more sales for YYinc than many of its SA's...and I'm not even joking LOL, nothing wrong with going for a more regular fit, but with this line (being so easy to wear really) they end up making it very complex and almost scary with all those contradicting opinions about sizing. I mean, in the runaway and on yohji himself you can tell how it works. Although when he does fitted stuff, IT IS FITTED. And I can say he's pretty good at it. I do have sz3 jackets that are closer to a 46.


Truth is that most of the stuff in japan is sz3 and I don't see them being over 6feet in general