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post #3001 of 4925
10/16/12 at 6:20am
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Originally Posted by blackakira View Post

i think when one wears yohji, to a certain extent, one shoul forego the use of a mirror. we get to analytical in front of mirrors i believe which works against the freedom one should feel in his clothes. if you force yourself to not look at a mirror i think it'd change your focus from 'how do i look in what im wearing' to 'how do i feel in what im wearing'.
thats my take on the above foo.gif

 

I do admire this notion. However I don't see anything wrong with feeling good wearing his clothes and looking good at the same time, the two should go hand in hand. If Yohji does want to advocate his philosophy this way, and this way only, he will have to order his flagship stores to do without any mirrors whatsoever. 

 

I did notice you said " to a certain extent " so I am with you on it, to a certain extent smile.gif

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post #3002 of 4925
10/16/12 at 8:53am

Two recent looks....
 

YYPH/Thrifted shirt/YYPH/Cons

 

YYCH/Thrifted cardigan/Y's/YYPH/Cons
 

Last fit, but with flash (Click to show)

 

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post #3003 of 4925
10/16/12 at 7:40pm
certainly, i believe strongly that an extent can never be carried out to its fullest. if a positive mentality were to be had, its about balance because each side of the coin has its own merits too.

imagine though if you were so confident in yourself that you wouldn't even have to look in the mirror for assurances. that would be fantastic! im sure wire feels this way when he doesn't have to.
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post #3004 of 4925
10/17/12 at 4:57am

typo

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post #3005 of 4925
10/17/12 at 5:03am
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Originally Posted by blackakira View Post

imagine though if you were so confident in yourself that you wouldn't even have to look in the mirror for assurances. that would be fantastic! im sure wire feels this way when he doesn't have to.

Wire.Artist has attained Yoda status in the Yohji Universe alreadyworship.gif so he has all the confidence ( and attitude, and nonchalance ) in doing Yohji w/o mirrors. Also if you pick your Yohji wardrobe to suit your frame and personality carefully, doing head-to-toe in Yohji should be auto-pilot, everything just falls into place. 

 

Also I can't speak for others, but wearing Yohji is about self-gratification. I post fits here merely to share as much info and experience as possible with others, not to get 15 thumb-ups etc. That's what Yohji gives me, a " in your own bubble " feeling so I don't really need approval from others ( would be nice of course if people appreciate ), but that's me rotflmao.gif

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post #3006 of 4925
10/17/12 at 8:19am

I feel you there. Not there yet, but hoping to be there about 'being in your own bubble'.

Hope this is a worthwhile thought to voice but I was reading about Basquiat and his wearing of Armani suits while painting. I'm not quite knowledgeable with fashion history so I'm not quite sure what a typical Armani fit is like but while I looked at pictures of him in them I couldn't help but think of a Yohji fit and how he would have been perfect in a Yohji ensemble.


 

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post #3007 of 4925
10/17/12 at 11:03am
Armani was largely credited for removing the structure from the men's suit and creating a drooped, slouchy silhouette. He may not have been the first to do it, but certainly the most widely known.

In think Basquiat, like Warhol before him, adopted the typcial dress of the current ruling/business class -- maybe for a contrarian effect? to show simultaneous allegiance to and separation from them? I don't know. He definitely woulda looked good in a Yohji suit. Sorta reminds me of Miles Davis adopting the Ivy Look in the 60s.

here's an Armani suit circa 1990. you can see some of the similarties with Yohji -- even if this is more Italian.

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post #3008 of 4925
10/17/12 at 11:29am

Basquiat actually walked for CdG!

 

 

 

Anyway, I do believe Yohji, if not actually inspired by him, at least use him as a reference point:

 

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post #3009 of 4925
10/17/12 at 11:31am
^ awesome! I love that last look from ss12. Sadly Ivwri mentioned that never got produced for retail though. I think that's a super cool summer suit.
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post #3010 of 4925
10/17/12 at 2:47pm
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Originally Posted by Parker View Post

Armani was largely credited for removing the structure from the men's suit and creating a drooped, slouchy silhouette. He may not have been the first to do it, but certainly the most widely known.

These days he's usually credited for making the everyday man comfortable in suits. Ozwald Boateng looks at him like a tailoring hero, and this is a man who broke the mould on Savile Row. I think his suiting had a far wider influence in menswear than those that followed, probably because it was such a monumental shift, rather than a refinement. Jil and Helmut were not as widespread, although Calvin did come close (after them I would say Hedi and Raf picked up the thread, reappropriating suiting from the afterwork crowd to the youth). Of course Yohji operates in parallel to this reading, but that is not to say his influence was not felt - just think about the 90s art crowd uniform.

Oddly enough the turning point given by dress historians where Armani is concerned is actually Richard Gere in American Gigolo. Not a very good film, but there are not many that have had that kind of cultural impact and made a designer's name so well known!

*edit* You can watch Ozwald's "Why Style Matters" on YouTube. He interviews Armani at the end and talks about how revolutionary he was.
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post #3011 of 4925
10/17/12 at 2:49pm

 

 

 

Me photographed by Diana Luganski at Kiasma Museum of Contemporary Art

Wool felt hat: Yohji Yamamoto Pour Homme A/W2011
Wool gabardine coat: Yohji Yamamoto Pour Homme A/W1994
Wool gabardine double layer shirt/jacket hybrid: Yohji Yamamoto Pour Homme A/W2011
Cotton t-shirt: Yohji Yamamoto Pour Homme
Wool gabardine drawstring hakama: Yohji Yamamoto Pour Homme S/S2012
Logger boots: Red Wing Shoes

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post #3012 of 4925
10/17/12 at 2:59pm
HOF nod[1].gif

The all black is very much my cup of tea as you know Mr V.

Nothing beats an old school drop shouldered long silhouette icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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post #3013 of 4925
10/17/12 at 3:09pm
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Originally Posted by syed View Post

These days he's usually credited for making the everyday man comfortable in suits. Ozwald Boateng looks at him like a tailoring hero, and this is a man who broke the mould on Savile Row. I think his suiting had a far wider influence in menswear than those that followed, probably because it was such a monumental shift, rather than a refinement. Jil and Helmut were not as widespread, although Calvin did come close (after them I would say Hedi and Raf picked up the thread, reappropriating suiting from the afterwork crowd to the youth). Of course Yohji operates in parallel to this reading, but that is not to say his influence was not felt - just think about the 90s art crowd uniform.
Oddly enough the turning point given by dress historians where Armani is concerned is actually Richard Gere in American Gigolo. Not a very good film, but there are not many that have had that kind of cultural impact and made a designer's name so well known!
*edit* You can watch Ozwald's "Why Style Matters" on YouTube. He interviews Armani at the end and talks about how revolutionary he was.

" The Untouchables " is an epc movie IMO. Wardrobe by Mr Giorgio Armani. Structured suiting at its best, the shirt/tie combo was staggeringly good.
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post #3014 of 4925
10/17/12 at 3:48pm

When searching for Yohji items I often come across the Coming Soon collection that's been mentioned here a couple of times as well. Does anybody know anything more about the brand? Was Yohji himself involved in the process? Does it even exist anymore? I know the clothes were produced in Italy by Sinv. but are they actually being produced anymore? If no, does anybody know why? I really liked the concept and much preferred the branding to Y-3, but have no idea about the quality. But I haven't seen a lookbook of the stuff since 2010 while trying to research it.

 

To me Coming Soon almost seems like someone took the safer items from his previous collections, made the fit a bit more Western (or youthful or what have you), used Italian manufacturers and sold at a lower price point. But I have no idea if this is correct or not.

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post #3015 of 4925
10/17/12 at 6:27pm

Just ordered my first Yohji piece icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

 

Dark grey pants, will post a fit when I get them. Really excited.

 

I love tailored looks but sometimes I feel like I want to switch it up.

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