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My latest project:
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if we get to pick pirate names i want to be captain simon simonson - der tantzer
post #48 of 57
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Au contraire. I love that you love.
Back to piracy: if we're talkin' eyepatch and parrot, I'm in!

Pirate avatar meme redux.
post #49 of 57
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Originally Posted by bengal-stripe View Post

Here is TV host Josh Gates presenting his copy of the last (number unknown) Edward Green had made for the ‘Abominable Snowman’.
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With bengal now in this thread with DWF, the shoe party can really start! Whoop, whoop!

Where my main men, Son of Saphir and fritzl at?



Let's blow the sole right off of this tread! Uhm, I mean, thread! (Sorry, iPhone auto-correct.)

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post #50 of 57
Me no like yeti shoe last.
Look like coral formation.
Have same in my tank.
Look stolen.

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post #51 of 57
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post


Let's blow the sole right off of this tread!

Have a bit more of Ms Faithfull


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Originally Posted by DWFII View Post

Shoe lasts cannot not be derived from shoes.

(I'm actually asking seriously) Is it not possible to reverse engineer a last from a closed shoe, as a tailor might do with say, a Huntsman or Caraceni coat?

Also, I wonder what intellectual property laws govern shoe lasts? Can someone actually be sued for using an identical last to a competitor? There is hardly any intellectual property protection of designs in apparel, after all, (see Inditex's quarterly earnings for evidence) so why should it be different for footwear?

In response to all the questions about 'so you got the last, what then,' let's imagine there exists a maker of some repute that's fallen on hard times. Florsheim, let's say. Or Cheaney. They come out with a new 'City' line of sleek lasts, patterns and finishing. People rave. The maker can now compete in a new category.
post #53 of 57
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Originally Posted by joonian View Post

(I'm actually asking seriously) Is it not possible to reverse engineer a last from a closed shoe, as a tailor might do with say, a Huntsman or Caraceni coat?
Also, I wonder what intellectual property laws govern shoe lasts? Can someone actually be sued for using an identical last to a competitor? There is hardly any intellectual property protection of designs in apparel, after all, (see Inditex's quarterly earnings for evidence) so why should it be different for footwear?
In response to all the questions about 'so you got the last, what then,' let's imagine there exists a maker of some repute that's fallen on hard times. Florsheim, let's say. Or Cheaney. They come out with a new 'City' line of sleek lasts, patterns and finishing. People rave. The maker can now compete in a new category.

Believe me shoe lasts and shoe design are covered by intellectual property laws. However the difficulties lie in pursuing claims & finding satisfactory remedies.
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post #55 of 57
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Originally Posted by joonian View Post

(I'm actually asking seriously) Is it not possible to reverse engineer a last from a closed shoe, as a tailor might do with say, a Huntsman or Caraceni coat?


No. A particular shoe lasts could be roughly simulated by looking at a shoe but nuances and details and even some critical topography and parameters will almost surely be missed.
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Also, I wonder what intellectual property laws govern shoe lasts? Can someone actually be sued for using an identical last to a competitor?

Probably an old fashioned and easily dismissed or mocked notion, but there is such a thing as honourable behavioral. If you respect someone or someone ideas/work, you don't rip them off. You can be influenced, but the energy...intellectual as well as physical... has to be your own.
Edited by DWFII - 12/29/11 at 12:30pm
post #56 of 57
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Originally Posted by Northampton Novice View Post

Believe me shoe lasts and shoe design are covered by intellectual property laws. However the difficulties lie in pursuing claims & finding satisfactory remedies.


Exactly!

post #57 of 57
There are few decent last makers left these days.

In Northampton, only Springline remains.
Michael does not strike me as the kind of person to screw a client over, in the process destroying his reputation, in order to copy one of their lasts for somebody else.

I imagine this will be the same if you go to Italy or France´s last makers.
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