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post #76 of 126
1/6/12 at 11:04am
Yes doing the cold/hot helps, sure. So do contrast showers. ANything to get blood there.

If you google exercises for a herniated disc, there are a few to reduce pain.
There is not much you can do for it apart from strengthening the muscles around.
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post #77 of 126
1/7/12 at 1:59pm
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Have you seen a chiropractor yet? I've had good luck with a couple, when I was in debilitating pain over the years.

Same here.

I had some back issues over the past year or two, and finally broke down and went to a chiropractor. He worked with me mostly on some muscle issues (stretching and such) for a couple of weeks, and I've been pain free since.
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post #78 of 126
1/8/12 at 6:02pm
How Yoga Can Wreck Your Body
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/08/magazine/how-yoga-can-wreck-your-body.html
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post #79 of 126
2/20/12 at 2:55am
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To put it bluntly, doing deadlifts is fucking idiotic.
At 40? Take the above phrase and square it.

I'm late to the thread, but I thought this advice is worth repeating. If the heaviest thing you regularly lift is yourself, why do deadlifts? They are a sport-specific exercise. People who don't play those sports don't need to do them.

It's not 'bad form' that's causing the back pain. It's having 40+ year-old connective tissue and starting to perform a routine more suited to collegiate track and field athletes.
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post #80 of 126
2/20/12 at 5:21am
I wish this forum had rep like sufu so I could neg your posts
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post #81 of 126
2/20/12 at 5:36am

Lower back pain is usually caused by the straining of lower back muscles due to decrease muscle tone, aging, and poor posture. 

 

So when moving an object you should consider having a good  stance and center of gravity to maximize your force. Also, to increase muscular strength in the lower, do regular exercise.

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post #82 of 126
2/20/12 at 10:03am
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I'm late to the thread, but I thought this advice is worth repeating. If the heaviest thing you regularly lift is yourself, why do deadlifts? They are a sport-specific exercise. People who don't play those sports don't need to do them.
It's not 'bad form' that's causing the back pain. It's having 40+ year-old connective tissue and starting to perform a routine more suited to collegiate track and field athletes.

Got my 50 year old dad squatting and deadlifting. Running 5/3/1, squats 225lb and pulls 245lb. Assuming you're not a retard you can deadlift. Picking shit up is not dangerous if you do it properly.
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post #83 of 126
2/21/12 at 4:05am
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Got my 50 year old dad squatting and deadlifting. Running 5/3/1, squats 225lb and pulls 245lb. Assuming you're not a retard you can deadlift. Picking shit up is not dangerous if you do it properly.

The more something is done the greater the probability that something bad will occur. And if there's no reason to need to be deadlifting, why do it? It's just unnecessarily inviting injury.
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post #84 of 126
2/21/12 at 4:42am
The reason is to strengthen your hamstrings and lower back, how is that not a good reason?
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post #85 of 126
2/22/12 at 1:50am
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The reason is to strengthen your hamstrings and lower back, how is that not a good reason?

And the guy doing bicep curls all day wants to strengthen his biceps. How is that not a good reason?

Having 'strong' hamstrings or a lower back doesn't actually mean anything for most people. And in many cases, the accompanying muscle tightening causes more problems than might be alleviated by having a 'strong' posterior chain.

I know you'll disagree because deadlifting makes people tough/it's a good exercise/core strength yadda yadda but I'm posting this in the hope that another 40+ year-old man won't think deadlifting is a panacea as it is often made out to be on these forums by people too young to understand aging and, more often than not, their own motivations for training (hint: they're not that much different from the guy doing bicep curls). Deadlifting is a sport-specific exercise, and the point of training is to accomplish fitness goals, so for a person whose fitness goals are non-athletic (i.e. they aren't training to improve performance in a sport) there is little need to do them.
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post #86 of 126
2/22/12 at 2:59am
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And the guy doing bicep curls all day wants to strengthen his biceps. How is that not a good reason?
Having 'strong' hamstrings or a lower back doesn't actually mean anything for most people. And in many cases, the accompanying muscle tightening causes more problems than might be alleviated by having a 'strong' posterior chain.
I know you'll disagree because deadlifting makes people tough/it's a good exercise/core strength yadda yadda but I'm posting this in the hope that another 40+ year-old man won't think deadlifting is a panacea as it is often made out to be on these forums by people too young to understand aging and, more often than not, their own motivations for training (hint: they're not that much different from the guy doing bicep curls). Deadlifting is a sport-specific exercise, and the point of training is to accomplish fitness goals, so for a person whose fitness goals are non-athletic (i.e. they aren't training to improve performance in a sport) there is little need to do them.

Do you think Romanian deadlifts are a safer alternative here for an older person looking to do some posterior chain work? Or still not worth it for someone in the general population?
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post #87 of 126
2/22/12 at 3:09am
If you're doing RDL's correctly (like Nicu back in the day) they stress the lower back isometrically very hard as well. If one's exercising purely for aesthetic goals, then there's no need to DL or squat.

Then again, I could go on all day about how those two plus some other compound lifts actually lead to a very aesthetic physique very efficiently, but I digress.
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post #88 of 126
2/22/12 at 3:53am
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And the guy doing bicep curls all day wants to strengthen his biceps. How is that not a good reason?
Having 'strong' hamstrings or a lower back doesn't actually mean anything for most people. And in many cases, the accompanying muscle tightening causes more problems than might be alleviated by having a 'strong' posterior chain.
I know you'll disagree because deadlifting makes people tough/it's a good exercise/core strength yadda yadda but I'm posting this in the hope that another 40+ year-old man won't think deadlifting is a panacea as it is often made out to be on these forums by people too young to understand aging and, more often than not, their own motivations for training (hint: they're not that much different from the guy doing bicep curls). Deadlifting is a sport-specific exercise, and the point of training is to accomplish fitness goals, so for a person whose fitness goals are non-athletic (i.e. they aren't training to improve performance in a sport) there is little need to do them.

Strong posterior chain is important for old people so they don't become cripples and pull there lower back trying to pick up something they dropped on the floor.


Would say RDLs put more strain on the lower back then ordinary deads.
Edited by fuji - 2/22/12 at 6:31am
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post #89 of 126
2/22/12 at 7:06am
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I'm late to the thread, but I thought this advice is worth repeating. If the heaviest thing you regularly lift is yourself, why do deadlifts? They are a sport-specific exercise. People who don't play those sports don't need to do them.
It's not 'bad form' that's causing the back pain. It's having 40+ year-old connective tissue and starting to perform a routine more suited to collegiate track and field athletes.

how the hell is a deadlift a sports specific exercise? they do a great job of building my glutes, hamstrings, spinal erectors, lats, traps, and forearms.
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post #90 of 126
2/22/12 at 8:15am
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I am doing Sumo deads these days, which stress the LB less.

I'm on fuji's side here, seems like strengthening the whole posterior chain is good for the bod and long term health, even if you have no sports-specific goal. BTW, my back is a lot better, thanks for asking.
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