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post #61 of 91
I know it would never work, but I would love a thread where tailors tell horror stories about idiot clients laugh.gif


Edit: Goals

2011
-Stopped buying suits, started buying sportcoats

-Stopped buying shirts in any color, other than light blue or white (I did buy a pink shirt for valentines day though)

-Bought a house, so I learned to make my clothing purchases fit my new budget

-Slowly I am upgrading my shoes, I learned that there is usually a reason new shoes are on sale, they are not as pleasing as the full price shoes

-Focus on shoulder measurement first and foremost

-Tweed

2012
-Tweed

-Buy a staple navy suit with double vents and soft shoulders

-Buy more grenadine ties (navy, dark green, dark brown, wine)

-Buy suede double monks

-Get appropriate clothing for a summer trip to the UK and France (any tips on this are appreciated, I am heading up at the end of May)

-Buy less, buy better quality

-Have some MTM shirts made from the local mens store
Edited by Achilles_ - 12/29/11 at 8:43am
post #62 of 91
I just can't believe how rude some people are. They look like huge douches.
post #63 of 91
Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

I just can't believe how rude some people are. They look like huge douches.

You ain't kidding...and you're right, I've seen it also.
post #64 of 91
-Get appropriate clothing for a summer trip to the UK and France (any tips on this are appreciated, I am heading up at the end of May)


Why not get the appropriate clothing IN the UK or France? Mid-budget, London has great shops and off-Row tailors (one of the MensFlair contributors is actively seeking them out), and Paris is quite good for mid-range shoes (think Septieme Largeur).
post #65 of 91
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1 Fewer shoes, but in brighter colors, The browns I have, and I find I am rarely in need of black shoes in daytime.

2 My body shape circa 2010 (sigh) so everything fits in the same good way

3 Figure out what works best with new beard
Edited by mack11211 - 1/1/12 at 8:32pm
post #66 of 91
continue focusing on fit, and buying quality useful items in smaller quantity instead of lots of impulse buys that wind up being useless.

also, i need to start spending more time on SF.
post #67 of 91

I could have sworn I'd replied to this thread already, but clearly not!

 

Anyway, my main 2011 insight is that it's surprisingly possible - and rewarding - to stick to a one-in/one-out policy regarding new purchases. Obviously, it requires one to have a certain starting point of sufficient pre-existing variety, but from then on, it has the practical effects of saving space and money, and enabling better-chosen, better-fitting (on the body and as part of one's overall wardrobe) items to be rotated in. I didn't stick to this one-in/one-out policy completely, but enough that I feel it's made a positive difference and focused my purchases more on bespoke.

 

My 2012 plans are to stick to that policy, possibly for a few more shirts and probably an odd jacket or suit. I plan to sell a hardly-worn Spano grey pure silk DB at some stage when I feel the market is right, in order to create the room for those purchases.

post #68 of 91
Quote:
Originally Posted by Holdfast View Post

I could have sworn I'd replied to this thread already, but clearly not!

Anyway, my main 2011 insight is that it's surprisingly possible - and rewarding - to stick to a one-in/one-out policy regarding new purchases. Obviously, it requires one to have a certain starting point of sufficient pre-existing variety, but from then on, it has the practical effects of saving space and money, and enabling better-chosen, better-fitting (on the body and as part of one's overall wardrobe) items to be rotated in. I didn't stick to this one-in/one-out policy completely, but enough that I feel it's made a positive difference and focused my purchases more on bespoke.

My 2012 plans are to stick to that policy, possibly for a few more shirts and probably an odd jacket or suit. I plan to sell a hardly-worn Spano grey pure silk DB at some stage when I feel the market is right, in order to create the room for those purchases.

HF - I think you were one of the first to make a 2011/2012 post in the 2010/2011 thread, before this new thread was created. Thanks for adding to this one too!
post #69 of 91
Last year I toned it down. I realized most of my missteps come about when I get caught up in the intellectual game of playing with pattern, color, etc. I kept pushing at the boundaries, but for what purpose? I realized I was happiest just relaxing into my style. I've ended up back where I started.

This year I hope to continue on the same path. I want to keep a hint of playfulness, now and then, but do it in a subtle, nuanced way. Little details that require you to be in on the joke rather than extravagant displays that draw stares. Each day doesn't need to be a dramatic innovation.

My rate of acquisition has slowed, but I have a couple of shoe purchases on the horizon. Nothing that will wow SF, and both in plain old brown. Kind of boring, but for where I am now, that sounds just great.
post #70 of 91
In 2011 I really held to my goal of buying less but buying better quality - especially when it comes to dress shirts and polo shirts. I think I only bought 5 or 6 dress shirts and all were solid blue or white except for one off white. I usually end up buying another 10 polo shirts each year and they are basically all I wear in the spring or summer. Over the years, you can imagine my supply of them has gotten pretty full and even as often as I wear them, they never seem to really die. So this year I only bought 2. I also cleaned a lot of junk out of the closets... some was sold on here or eBay, the rest went to the Salvation Army or the dump. If it didn't fit anymore and couldn't be tailored (or wasn't worth the cost to tailor) out it went.

My sartorial goal for 2012 is to continue the same pattern of buying less but better. I am actually going to sit down and make a list of wants and try to stick to it. I plan to use that list when the desire for an impulse purchase strikes me - I'll pull it out and remind myself that I don't really want the item if it isn't on the list. One item that I know is going to make the list is a pair of Alden chukka boots in the Ravello color.
post #71 of 91
2011

- Kopped a pair of shell cord shoes from LS. Even after reading about the differences from calfskin, was still a bit surprised to see how fast shell cord creases and how heavy and thick it is.
- Found my ideal trouser fit size, gave all my old pants to my dad. It's pretty weird whenever we meet up for dinner to see him wearing my clothes from circa 2005. smile.gif
- Discovered that I love Loro Piana wool!
- Stuck to my plan of upgrading my staples, kopped a nice Canali overcoat

2012

- Chocolate cap toe suede oxfords from Carmina, and possibly those blue suede derbys from Mark McNairy
- Want to get more information about how the colors offered by Carmina match up to the Alden ones. Carmina has cognac, brown, etc.. Alden has cigar, ravello, etc.. Is it just the same, since they're both from Horween? confused.gif
- Trying to find a tweed trench or carcoat for fall 2012
- Well fitted 3 pc navy pinstripe (or chalk) suit
- Start upgrading tie collection
post #72 of 91
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Originally Posted by mktitsworth View Post

It could all depend upon quality/cost. For my own curiosity though, I calculated the range.
Constants:
24 hober: ~$2400 (24*$100)
12 C&J: ~$6000 (12*$500)
Constants total: ~$8400
Low end Bespoke:
6 bespoke suits: ~$9000 (6*$1500)
12 bespoke shirts: ~1800 (12*$150)
Bespoke total: ~$10800
Total w/ constants: ~$19200
Mid range Bespoke:
6 bespoke suits: ~$18000 (6*$3000)
12 bespoke shirts: ~$3000 (12*$250)
Bespoke total: ~$21000
Total w/ constants: ~$29400
High end Bespoke:
6 bespoke suits: ~$27000 (6*$4500)
12 bespoke shirts: ~$6000 (12*$500)
Bespoke total: ~$33000
Total w/ constants: ~$41400
Conclusion: Even in the lightest situation, that's... more than just cutting back on a food budget. Good luck to you on it.

This is StyleForvm, we don't care about trivialities like that, same goes for things like mortgage payments, utility bills, etc.
post #73 of 91
2011
  1. Discovered MTM and ordered 1 SC and 3 Suits
  2. Purchased a new pair of shoes every 2 months
  3. Purchased some non silk ties for the first time
  4. Purchased odd trousers/cords to mix in with different looks



2012
  1. Looking to purchase 3 piece navy MTM suit, 3 piece brown suit
  2. Purchase 2 MTM all year SC
  3. Purchase quality over quantity
  4. Purchase more non silk ties and pocket squares
  5. Re-vamp my belt collection
  6. Liquidate all my old suits/sportcoats/ties/shirts/shoes
  7. Purchase a new dress watch (Longines/Hamilton/Panerai/IWC?)


Hope everyone a successful and great New Year iGents!
post #74 of 91
2011 insights
- you can gain weight while training for a marthon
- struggled with sleeve length
- not so sure anymore with very slim fit

2012
- have shirts made
- more pocket squares

Enjoy!
post #75 of 91
2011
- I really do end up using my brown shoes/belts more.
- Sportcoats are really useful, especially if you feel lazy that day.
- Wool is worth it.
- Better undershirts are worth it.
- Wet shaving with a badger brush and fewer blades is awesome, and cheaper. But ole' electric works when I wake up late.
- Pratt knot is the sh*t. I love you pratt knot.
- Suits really are modern (mental) suits of armor, useful in dealing with bureaucrats and civil servants (or managing them).
- Caring about clothing really makes a difference in a lot of ways. People notice and treat you differently, it helps give you some credibility, despite being the youngest "boy" in an "old mans club"
- Attention to your appearence helps you develop attention to many other things, like attention to others', attention to your own behavior, and attention to you own health.
- Losing weight is possible, with some help from your doctor, if he perscribes you phentermine...

2012
- Don't buy anything or have anything tailored until done losing weight. The temptation is great to "buy now", damn sales...
- At work: Crush my enemies and drive them into the sea, salt their fields, and hear the lamentation of their women. Also, lay off the caffeine.
- Try not to work so much, its really cutting into my web surfing.
- Better brown shoes. (brown monk straps...)
- Get better variety of pocket squares, learn more ways to fold them.
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