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post #181 of 220
12/27/12 at 4:16pm
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I really liked the movie, and I'm speaking as a Tolkien geek. The lighting, or the film speed, made some of the scenes look claustrophobic - and no, I'm not talking about the cave scenes! Secondly, I was disappointed in the way the goblins were created - they looked to large and menacing as if they were Uruk-hai, but then again we are dealing with the perspective of Hobbits and Dwarves. But I still have these expectations that the Goblins were more crude and less menacing.

How so? The goblins under the Misty Mountains were mostly small. They looked very different from the orcs (like Azog the Destroyer) that were hunting the dwarves.

Hmm, I will have to re-watch it anyway and see.
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post #182 of 220
12/27/12 at 9:42pm
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I really enjoyed the HFR 3D. My favourite scene utilizing it was surprisingly the meeting between Elrond, Galadriel, Saruman, and Gandalf in Rivendell. Waterfalls everywhere! nod[1].gif

I think I agree on that about "favorite scene." I wasn't aware Christopher Lee was still alive while filming this though - my thought was that he was entirely CGI. If he is dead, it was an absolutely fantastic job there. Did a complete double-take, having been under the impression he died right after the release of Revenge of the Sith.

Edit: nvm - still alive.
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post #183 of 220
12/28/12 at 8:51am
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I think I agree on that about "favorite scene." I wasn't aware Christopher Lee was still alive while filming this though - my thought was that he was entirely CGI. If he is dead, it was an absolutely fantastic job there. Did a complete double-take, having been under the impression he died right after the release of Revenge of the Sith.
Edit: nvm - still alive.

He's under the weather and wasn't going to fly out to NZ because of his health and age. But, he made it out.
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post #184 of 220
12/28/12 at 9:07am
Haven't read the books in a long time, but aren't dwarves supposed to be basically as bad ass as elves? Gimli and Legolas had that competition (at Helm's Deep IIRC) where they were counting how many orcs they killed. In all the films, Jackson treats them more as comic relief.
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post #185 of 220
12/28/12 at 9:14am
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Haven't read the books in a long time, but aren't dwarves supposed to be basically as bad ass as elves? Gimli and Legolas had that competition (at Helm's Deep IIRC) where they were counting how many orcs they killed. In all the films, Jackson treats them more as comic relief.

This seems to be the common perception of dwarves vs elves:
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With regard to overall personality, dwarves are more human because they are seen to be more comical and showy with human emotions like happiness and sadness. The elves on the other hand are a lot more serious creatures, not to mention mischievous.
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post #186 of 220
12/28/12 at 9:26am
Fair enough, but what about in terms of ass kicking? In The Hobbit (movie version),
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
The dwarves are about to get their asses kicked by wargs, and then the elves show up and slaughter them no problem.

Also, what's with Fili and Kili looking like regular humans? Did they run out of dwarf makeup budget?
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post #187 of 220
12/28/12 at 5:40pm
just got back from the hobbit in 3d. i don't understand peoples dislike of the movie.. what a fucking incredible movie. everything was filmed beautifully and the acting was spot on. there wasn't a dull moment from start to finish. 10/10.
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post #188 of 220
12/29/12 at 6:41am
I was not that impressed. Too much movie made out of too little material, the exact opposite formula of what made the LotR films so successful.

There is a nice movie to be made out of this nice little children's book but Jackson has become too self-indulgent to do it.
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post #189 of 220
12/29/12 at 7:02am
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I was not that impressed. Too much movie made out of too little material, the exact opposite formula of what made the LotR films so successful.
There is a nice movie to be made out of this nice little children's book but Jackson has become too self-indulgent to do it.

Did you end up taking the 7 year old? What did she think?
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post #190 of 220
12/29/12 at 8:23am
she liked it.
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post #191 of 220
12/29/12 at 11:45pm
The Lord of the Rings trilogy is my most favorite movie ever so the Hobbit easily is my fave movie this year...the best!
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post #192 of 220
1/1/13 at 4:29am
The Hobbit wasnt a great movie. Definitely didnt get absorbed like the first LOTR. Best movie of the year is still Argo to me.
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post #193 of 220
1/1/13 at 11:20am
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Haven't read the books in a long time, but aren't dwarves supposed to be basically as bad ass as elves? Gimli and Legolas had that competition (at Helm's Deep IIRC) where they were counting how many orcs they killed. In all the films, Jackson treats them more as comic relief.

The movie definitely robbed Gimli of his dignity I think. In the books he was supposed to be a bit blustery, but the movies made an idiot out of him.
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post #194 of 220
1/1/13 at 9:38pm
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The movie definitely robbed Gimli of his dignity I think. In the books he was supposed to be a bit blustery, but the movies made an idiot out of him.

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"The disparity in sizes between [the other members of the Fellowship] could so easily be risible, but here was Gimli, halfway between the taller men and Elves and the shorter Hobbits. So it struck me that Gimli - a character whose own sense of self-importance is coupled with an absolute incomprehension of the fact that he is small - might possibly provide a lightning rod of humor that would help make the transition between the two group sizes work." - John Rhys-Davies

From: "The Making of the Lord of the Rings" pp 144-145
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post #195 of 220
1/22/13 at 5:08am
So I will see this on Wednesday. Only place with HFR3D is about 30 minutes away and only at 9. My theater has it in IMAX 3D and 2D. Basically, is the HFR worth a long drive, more money and staying up way later than I usually do over IMAX/2D? Leaning toward 3D IMAX.
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