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post #1 of 80
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I have been lurking around these forums for a few days, and I felt compelled to post based on what I’ve been reading.  To preface this, I just want to say I am far from a fashion expert although I have recently begun to acquire sartorial tastes.

 

Oftentimes, I see someone wearing a $2K+ Suit yet are obviously 30%+ bodyfat.  When I see this, I just ask myself why?  Why spend the $$$ on a premium suit when you can look 10 times better with a $50 a month gym membership and a well-fitted $2-400 suit from J. Crew, Express, etc.    My point is that people often build their wardrobe with clothes as the starting point instead of what lies beneath the clothes.  Being fat actually says more about a person than what they are wearing. 

 

I am not saying that people need to be aspire for a body type like Arnold, Brad Pitt, or some NFL Athlete.  I am not advocating changing who you are… if you are short, you will always short.  If you have a big frame, you will always have a big frame.  But I AM advocating that you should be fit.  Clothes are only as good as the confidence you carry with it, and no super 120 made in Italy whatever stuff will change that.  I myself am not some super athlete.  I’m 5’9”, 45” chest, 36” waist, with ~16% BF.   But, I am reasonably fit, and can confidently wear clothes no matter the brand, fabric, etc.  so long as they look good to ME, and are well-fitted. 

 

Bottom line, if you are fat and considering indulging in buying a new wardrobe, you should first seriously consider hitting the gym.  The $2K suit is not a Superman cape, and it will not make you look or feel as good as being fit and healthy.  Tailor your wardrobe with your body as the starting point.  Aim to achieve a level of fitness that will give you the confidence to wear anything, from $200 Express Suits to $2,000 Canali.  I think one story that really stuck out was Barron from Effortless Gent.  He was once a really fat guy who bought expensive clothes.  It wasn’t until he actually became fit that he was able to become a style guru and was able to take risks and be the person he probably truly was.  For example, I think the guy is a big fan of Bonobos (not exactly SF approved) and not that expensive either!  Dappered is another great one.

post #2 of 80
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Originally Posted by TheWhat View Post

Why spend the $$$ on a premium suit when you can look 10 times better with a $50 a month gym membership and a well-fitted $2-400 suit from J. Crew, Express, etc.

Except a '$50 gym membership' doesn't get you in shape, it's the hundreds of hours you put in at the gym which do that. To some people those hours are better spent doing other things, such as doing the stuff that earns the money to buy $2000 suits.
post #3 of 80
Interesting first post... lurker[1].gif

I agree that guys with a good physique look better in tailored clothing, in general. But be careful to not be seen to be lecturing those less fortunate than you are. Gym training just doesn't interest some people, and that's their choice. That doesn't mean that they shouldn't try to wear nice clothes.
post #4 of 80

It is certainly true that you don't have to try as hard to look reasonably turned out if you are fit, but at the same time, you will not compensate for poor style choices just because you are fit. A bad suit will still be a bad suit. Then as SM points out, a $50 gym membership (and are there any memberships that cheap?) means nothing unless you go regularly and do the right things. If you are really out of condition you'd need a proper program and a trainer too. Incidentally, I'm a triathlete, and I don't go to the gym ever. And finally, you can overdo it: being built like a brick outhouse will mean you will have other problems.

post #5 of 80
Ed Morel refuses to sell Panta to anyone who can't do three back to back Tabata intervals followed by double digit weighted pullups.

Will from ASW will mail you calipers to estimate body fat before he agrees to sell you an Astrakahn hat. Shipping is complimentary.

Carl from CEGO will only make shirts for Navy SEALs, and no, it won't be in that fwockin' SG chambray.

With the Armoury, it is all knife skills, swordplay, and the skills of stealth and lethality.

Corvato will make for fatties, though.
post #6 of 80
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post

Ed Morel refuses to sell Panta to anyone who can't do three back to back Tabata intervals followed by double digit weighted pullups.
Will from ASW will mail you calipers to estimate body fat before he agrees to sell you an Astrakahn hat.
Carl from CEGO will only make shirts for Navy SEALs, and no, it won't be in that fwockin' SG chambray.
With the Armoury, it is all knife skills, swordplay, and the skills of stealth and lethality.
Corvato will make for fatties, though.

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post #7 of 80
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Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum View Post


Except a '$50 gym membership' doesn't get you in shape, it's the hundreds of hours you put in at the gym which do that. To some people those hours are better spent doing other things, such as doing the stuff that earns the money to buy $2000 suits.

What the OP is trying to say is that men beyond a certain BMI should remain unclothed, and be sequestered on their own island in the Arctic, say, Greenland.
post #8 of 80
I am aware of opportunity cost, putting more hours in one thing you face a trade-off of putting less in another. But I don't agree in this case, here's why.

1) Plenty of evidence shows that going for a low-carb diet will help dramatically with weight. Most trainers/researchers admit that diet plays a very significant role.

2) Being fat is correlated with a lot of diseases, which especially in the U.S. cost a lot in terms of drugs/doctors visit/surgeries and essentially time spent buying drugs/visiting doctors/surgeries/recovery time.

3) You do not need to exercise *that* much, I can point (if people here are interested) to plenty of research showing evidence that highly intensive, short duration exercises tend to be very beneficial.

I agree with the OP, but he doesn't talk about nutrition as much as he should, the gym does not magically cure obesity.

I would recommend that people look into the work of Gary Taubes, Art De Vany, Kurt Harris, etc. A lot of people are also reporting successes with Tim Ferriss' approach which is similar, focus on diet, little time doing exercises (but doing them right).

So people who prefer other things to improving body image should consider the higher opportunity cost of future expenses related to their health, the overall better first impression you would leave in other people, the admiration from your friends and family for achieving your goals, how content you feel when you look at before/after pictures, etc.
post #9 of 80
The forum is replete with fit individuals that carry the torch of being well dressed. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

There was one fella, I can't presently recall who, that was very fit and would frequent sports bars. From his writings, one might gather that he is quite successful in all his ambitions, if a bit overweening.
post #10 of 80
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post


Will from ASW will mail you calipers to estimate body fat before he agrees to sell you an Astrakahn hat. Shipping is complimentary.
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It's well known only an autopsy is an accurate measure of body fat. Accept no substitute. .
post #11 of 80
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Originally Posted by UrbanComposition View Post

The forum is replete with fit individuals that carry the torch of being well dressed. The two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

There was one fella, I can't presently recall who, that was very fit and would frequent sports bars. From his writings, one might gather that he is quite successful in all his ambitions, if a bit overweening.

I think that you are calling for shirtless tape measure pics of the OP.

Oh, can all the fatties in this thread raise their hand (assuming that you have the strength to do so.)
post #12 of 80

It's well known only an autopsy is an accurate measure of body fat. Accept no substitute. .

post #13 of 80
All the best dressed men on SF have been seen in spandex at least once.
post #14 of 80
Spanx for men.
post #15 of 80
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum View Post


Except a '$50 gym membership' doesn't get you in shape, it's the hundreds of hours you put in at the gym which do that. To some people those hours are better spent doing other things, such as doing the stuff that earns the money to buy $2000 suits.


 

My point is, your fitness and  diet is within your control and it should be the starting point for a wardrobe.   I see it a lot like investing, you don't throw good money after bad, but instead fix the original problem as best you can.  To better illustrate, let's look at the popular BCG Growth-Share Matrix (http://www.netmba.com/images/strategy/matrix/bcg/growthshare.gif).  Think of each aspect of your appearance as interrelated business units, and you will understand what I am trying to illustrate.  Like I said, I'm not saying everybody should shoot for elite-fitness status, but rather simple fitness goals.  Like "Dunknow" said, it as simple as a few simple life choices (i.e. low-carb, vegetarian, etc), and a little bit of exercise (hell, you can do 30 minutes of cardio a day and you'll be in better shape than 90% of America).

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