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Help Me Ascertain the Worth/Value of this Suit

post #1 of 13
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Hi All,

I received this suit as a birthday gift last summer, but because it is blatantly ill-fitting--I wear a size 36S jacket, this is sized 48R--I have not even worn it once thus it is brand-new. It looks to be of great quality and the color is quite pleasant too. I have been unable to find a lot of information pertaining to the manufacturer online. Is it a reputable one or not? Regardless, what is a suit like this worth? I would like to sell it for the obvious reason and perhaps use that money to purchase something fitting.

Thanks much.

- Nick

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Edit: I noticed that a couple of the tags read "Mattarazi Uomo" while the tag inside in the upper portion of the jacket and the hanger read "Abito Sartoriale." What accounts for this discrepancy?

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post #2 of 13
Thread Starter 
After a bit more searching I found this:

http://www.finetuxedos.com/tuxedos/designer-tuxedos/mattarazi-uomo-tuxedos.html

How far or close would the pricing of the suit I have be to the tuxedos for sale there?
post #3 of 13
Sorry, but that is, um, just about worthless. Made in China junk. You might do best trying to sell it to a local consignment shop, I think, maybe Craigslist? Even NWT you'll have a difficult time selling it, I'm afraid, to anyone who knows much of anything about clothing.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but hey, it was a gift, right? :/
post #4 of 13
I hate the new sf.
post #5 of 13
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by TheWGP View Post

Sorry, but that is, um, just about worthless. Made in China junk. You might do best trying to sell it to a local consignment shop, I think, maybe Craigslist? Even NWT you'll have a difficult time selling it, I'm afraid, to anyone who knows much of anything about clothing.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but hey, it was a gift, right? :/

No, not at all. Thank you for the input. Apparently it was told that although it bears a "Made in China" logo, it's actually sewn and designed in Italy. The "Made in China" is attributed simply for the fact that some of the parts, i.e., buttons, lining, etc., are Chinese products. How much veracity does that have if any?
post #6 of 13
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Originally Posted by TheWGP View Post

Sorry, but that is, um, just about worthless. Made in China junk. You might do best trying to sell it to a local consignment shop, I think, maybe Craigslist? Even NWT you'll have a difficult time selling it, I'm afraid, to anyone who knows much of anything about clothing.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but hey, it was a gift, right? :/

I am with WGP on this one. It is not going to be a suit that falls in the classic search strings used on eBay.
post #7 of 13
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Originally Posted by freethrowdunk View Post

No, not at all. Thank you for the input. Apparently it was told that although it bears a "Made in China" logo, it's actually sewn and designed in Italy. The "Made in China" is attributed simply for the fact that some of the parts, i.e., buttons, lining, etc., are Chinese products. How much veracity does that have if any?

It usually works the other way with a "Made in Italy" label, if any part of the product was done in Italy, they'll slap the label on. I'd assume none of it was done in Italy if it says Made in China.

As far as selling it, it's not a name people will recognize. I have no idea what the quality is, but not being a major name makes it hard to sell.

Also, how did you get a suit 12 sizes too big? Is that a Euro size maybe?
post #8 of 13
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I see. You know, I'm not too sure on the Euro size bit. I do know, however, that once I put it on, I can swim in the thing lol. Anyway, I'll see what goodness (or not) Craigslist can bring for this. Thanks, guys.
post #9 of 13
Giving someone a suit that's nowhere near their size is a little strange...

...but this suit is not junk. I purchased a suit much like it recently -- same neck label (minus the "Made in China tag) and hanger, identical lining, same finishing. It's 100% wool 150's, rather than your cashmere blend, and has a "Joseph Bach" label. I paid about $600, down from the obviously fake price on the tag of ~$3000. The suit is definitely not worth $3000, but it is worth $600. The fabric is nice, and the finishing is good. I can't tell for sure if it's half-canvass or full-canvass, but I can say quite confidently that it's not fused. It's worn very well for me so far, and fits me like a glove.

It will be a tough sell on Craigslist and otherwise, since no one has heard of the brand. But it's definitely not a bad suit. If it were my size, I'd be making you an offer right now.

Thank your benefactor, and then kindly point out that you're nowhere near a 48R. It's a long shot at this point, but an exchange may not be out of the question.
post #10 of 13
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Originally Posted by bleedinggumsmurphy View Post

Giving someone a suit that's nowhere near their size is a little strange...

...but this suit is not junk. I purchased a suit much like it recently -- same neck label (minus the "Made in China tag) and hanger, identical lining, same finishing. It's 100% wool 150's, rather than your cashmere blend, and has a "Joseph Bach" label. I paid about $600, down from the obviously fake price on the tag of ~$3000. The suit is definitely not worth $3000, but it is worth $600. The fabric is nice, and the finishing is good. I can't tell for sure if it's half-canvass or full-canvass, but I can say quite confidently that it's not fused. It's worn very well for me so far, and fits me like a glove.

It will be a tough sell on Craigslist and otherwise, since no one has heard of the brand. But it's definitely not a bad suit. If it were my size, I'd be making you an offer right now.

Thank your benefactor, and then kindly point out that you're nowhere near a 48R. It's a long shot at this point, but an exchange may not be out of the question.

Very, very interesting. Thank you for this response, sir! For the purposes of brevity, I decided not to include the minute details in the OP, but seeing as though it has some of you perplexed--and rightfully so--I'll add them here...

As mentioned the suit was bought as a birthday gift for me last summer by a very close friend of mine. Initially she had purchased a different suit from the same seller--one which I automatically loved. Though the jacket fit perfectly with a snug slim fit, the pants were much too small and tight. She ended up returning the suit and in its place was given this--similar in style but not exactly identical because he didn't have a bigger size of the first suit. I don't know if the seller was completely oblivious that he had now jumped many sizes in giving the second suit, or misunderstood her reasons for having returned the first one, but nevertheless this was handed to her and this is what I received. After telling her the not-so-auspicious news that this one was way too large, she was already disappointed in the entire process of having to drive back and forth so many times for exchanges and such and so it stood--or remained hanged in my closet till essentially today when I took it out to take pictures. Though, she is the one who suggested that I should sell this and with the money made, buy another suit.

Just like you, she paid around the same price for this suit. And regardless of its price tag (inflated or not) it does indeed look to be a quality suit, that is why I was a bit uncertain of the previous comments made in this thread and am thankful for yours. It stands to reason then that though it will most likely not sell for $600 even NWT in this economy, I should be able to get at least half that amount not because it's a designer brand, but because of its quality and looks. Perhaps I should make a thread in the classifieds section of this forum (apart from a Craigslist ad), to see if anyone is interested. Thank you again.
post #11 of 13

I have no clue as to its intrinsic worth, but in terms of resale value, I agree that it is probably close to nil for the reasons stated above.

post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by bleedinggumsmurphy View Post

Giving someone a suit that's nowhere near their size is a little strange...
...but this suit is not junk. I purchased a suit much like it recently -- same neck label (minus the "Made in China tag) and hanger, identical lining, same finishing. It's 100% wool 150's, rather than your cashmere blend, and has a "Joseph Bach" label. I paid about $600, down from the obviously fake price on the tag of ~$3000. The suit is definitely not worth $3000, but it is worth $600. The fabric is nice, and the finishing is good. I can't tell for sure if it's half-canvass or full-canvass, but I can say quite confidently that it's not fused. It's worn very well for me so far, and fits me like a glove.
It will be a tough sell on Craigslist and otherwise, since no one has heard of the brand. But it's definitely not a bad suit. If it were my size, I'd be making you an offer right now.
Thank your benefactor, and then kindly point out that you're nowhere near a 48R. It's a long shot at this point, but an exchange may not be out of the question.

$600 is way over paying. On this forum you can get a quality suit for much lower than that. Case in point, I purchased a NWT RL BL navy suit for $600. What do you mean the fabric is "nice"? From the pictures it seems cheap and shiny. How is the finishing "good"? The plastic buttons and ugly button holes do not hold up to that. Besides, we are missing any mention of the most important element: fit. How does the thing fit? A suit should not "fit like a glove". Pictures of said fit would put more credence to your arguement.

You say that it is not fused? I would bet you what you paid for the suit that it is. Check. If it is half canvassed then it is half fused and thus fused. I suspect that the two of you know each other and are trying to unload a crappy suit.
post #13 of 13
The hangar and lining are identical to the Marco Valentino suits that are sold by Wizard of Aahs on ebay. They are half canvassed and of decent quality, and well regarded as one of the better value entry level suits. They can be had for around $280 shipped if you let Jeff know that you are a SF member, he is a pleasure to deal with.
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