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post #16 of 27
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This is hard to visualize.  Something about them being shiny just wouldn't seem right to me?

Fair enough, to each his own.
post #17 of 27
wotan2525, does this bring back any memories? (right-click photo 'open in new window')

Once upon a time (possible original finish)...

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Today...

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post #18 of 27
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wotan2525, does this bring back any memories? (right-click photo 'open in new window')
Once upon a time (possible original finish)...
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Today...
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That finish looks awfully dark -- far darker than I remember.  But... it is possible that those were frequently polished with a black polish, perhaps?  The soles also look dark and mine were always very blonde.

 

Mine were a lot closer to this color, though I can't remember if the finish was ever textured like this.

 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/15822946@N05/3317014118/in/photostream/

post #19 of 27
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Originally Posted by Man Of Lint View Post

wotan2525, does this bring back any memories? (right-click photo 'open in new window')

Once upon a time (possible original finish)...
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Today...
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That finish looks awfully dark -- far darker than I remember.  But... it is possible that those were frequently polished with a black polish, perhaps?  The soles also look dark and mine were always very blonde.

Mine were a lot closer to this color, though I can't remember if the finish was ever textured like this.

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Even better! Have you tried Ebay? For the same money as a resole you could probably get a pair in better shape unless you are sentimental.
post #20 of 27
The word "indestructible" is sometimes used to describe old Florsheims. This pair supports that idea. (Walking through fire is a new one though.)

You can buy unworn or almost unworn pairs on eBay for less than the cost of a re-sole, it's true, but they won't have any history or character to them. These have both those things and I can understand the desire to keep them at any cost.
post #21 of 27
Im surprised the sides havent been busted through, like in HRH's

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Prince+Wales+Visits+St+Pancras+Almshouses+iDIIaQ8ioOAl.jpg
post #22 of 27
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Im surprised the sides havent been busted through, like in HRH's
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Prince+Wales+Visits+St+Pancras+Almshouses+iDIIaQ8ioOAl.jpg

IMO these infamous shoes are a ridiculous public relations stunt.

I'm all for buying quality goods and maintaining them until they die. But these are beyond my tolerance for opulent decrepitude.
post #23 of 27
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Im surprised the sides havent been busted through, like in HRH's
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Prince+Wales+Visits+St+Pancras+Almshouses+iDIIaQ8ioOAl.jpg

IMO these infamous shoes are a ridiculous public relations stunt.

I'm all for buying quality goods and maintaining them until they die. But these are beyond my tolerance for opulent decrepitude.

Amen
post #24 of 27
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Amen

I agree fully, but I'm just remarking that it would seem logical to me that OP's shoes would have busted open similarly at some point.
post #25 of 27
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IMO these infamous shoes are a ridiculous public relations stunt.
I'm all for buying quality goods and maintaining them until they die. But these are beyond my tolerance for opulent decrepitude.

So at what point do they become a publicity stunt? 20 years? 30? 40?

He's been consistent in advocating for durable goods, and advocating materials like wool and leather that are natural and renewable. If it's a publicity stunt, it's one that's been ongoing for most of his adult life, and at that point, it's one I can certainly respect.

Also, I recently became a member of the patched shoes club (an old pair of loafers) and you'd be surprised how easy and natural feeling it is to have an old, well loved pair of shoes fixed for another day. And if you just keep doing that, you wind up with shoes like those. It's the path of least resistance. Buying a new pair requires a decision to finally replace the well worn ones and go through the break in period, ect.

My feeling is that he just doesn't like to replace stuff when it can still be fixed. And after you do that a certain amount, actually making the decision to replace them would be tantamount to murder. The day those shoes get replaced is the day the uppers tear from the welt, which is about the same day my old pair of penny loafers do.
post #26 of 27
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So at what point do they become a publicity stunt? 20 years? 30? 40?
He's been consistent in advocating for durable goods, and advocating materials like wool and leather that are natural and renewable. If it's a publicity stunt, it's one that's been ongoing for most of his adult life, and at that point, it's one I can certainly respect.
Also, I recently became a member of the patched shoes club (an old pair of loafers) and you'd be surprised how easy and natural feeling it is to have an old, well loved pair of shoes fixed for another day. And if you just keep doing that, you wind up with shoes like those. It's the path of least resistance. Buying a new pair requires a decision to finally replace the well worn ones and go through the break in period, ect.
My feeling is that he just doesn't like to replace stuff when it can still be fixed. And after you do that a certain amount, actually making the decision to replace them would be tantamount to murder. The day those shoes get replaced is the day the uppers tear from the welt, which is about the same day my old pair of penny loafers do.

Agreed. And none of us can know how those old shoes FEEL to their owner, quite apart from how they look. I tend to keep things until they can't go another inch, if I have some feeling for them. This includes old shoes, even when I have an identical, unworn pair still in the box, waiting in the closet for the day when the original pair dies. I don't really want to deal with the new ones, I want the old ones. I feel this way about my friends, my dogs, you get the idea. Life is short and presents us with unavoidable change. Any thread of continuity that I actually control... I'll take it.

And btw, as for the old Florsheims not having worn through like HRH's shoes... If the latter are bespoke Lobbs, as I believe they are, they are made of less durable leather than old Florsheim Imperials. Lobb St. James uses upper leathers that begin to craze and crack quite quickly.
Edited by well-kept - 12/19/11 at 7:15am
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The Italians and English have spent decades trying to imitate that patina - artificially!

Apart from remedial work to them I would try to not impact the patina too much IMO.
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