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post #106 of 111
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Originally Posted by jeff13007 View Post


As you can see both do not have the split V waistband. And Yes the Kiton is unaltered and the Steed well that is bespoke, so some random tailor did not sew it closed.

Then you and I understand a split waistband to be different.

Those are split waistbands to me, with inlays on either side of the seam to allow easy alteration. A single piece waistband has no inlays. When the top of the waistband is left separated...either in a V or just a slit...that it sometimes called adding spring to the waistband. You'll see that as typical on English/fishtail backs on SR...including Steed. The RTW version of the "V" split is a sad and pretty much meaningless vestige of that, since on a straight waist it has lost its purpose in anchoring the braces as it would in a fishtail.
post #107 of 111
As a son of immigrants with no particular allegiance to Western clothing styles, it kind of goes the other way for me: when did we "lose" knowledge of my family's traditional way of dressing?

Anyhow, I think the root causes are (a) higher quality of inexpensive clothing and (b) greater variety in a given person's wardrobe.
post #108 of 111
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Originally Posted by F. Corbera View Post

Then you and I understand a split waistband to be different.
Those are split waistbands to me, with inlays on either side of the seam to allow easy alteration. A single piece waistband has no inlays. When the top of the waistband is left separated...either in a V or just a slit...that it sometimes called adding spring to the waistband. You'll see that as typical on English/fishtail backs on SR...including Steed. The RTW version of the "V" split is a sad and pretty much meaningless vestige of that, since on a straight waist it has lost its purpose in anchoring the braces as it would in a fishtail.

Well i guess i learned something new today then. Thank you for that, however my point was that just because it did not have the "V" split does not mean that the pants are inferior to those that have them. As you said "the RTW version of the "V" split is a sad and pretty much meaningless vestige of that" My pants from steed do not have the fishtail so i failed to see the connection with it.
post #109 of 111
I lost it on a humid night in the middle of the year.
post #110 of 111
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Well i guess i learned something new today then. Thank you for that, however my point was that just because it did not have the "V" split does not mean that the pants are inferior to those that have them. As you said "the RTW version of the "V" split is a sad and pretty much meaningless vestige of that" My pants from steed do not have the fishtail so i failed to see the connection with it.

The real moral of this story is that you have fantastic pants.
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Edited by R-H - 12/15/11 at 10:30pm
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