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post #856 of 1041
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Originally Posted by S-NMBR View Post

It's not easy to answer this opinion you have posted about the price.


My English is not the best, but I try to give my point of view.

 
As I work in fashion Industry, I think that not only details or the cut that make the value of EG items.
In my 25 yrs experience in fashion industry as designer I have to say that beside the final price of an item there's much more than the the fabric or workmanship.
There's the quality of the brand, and the market position on him, the're's the experience and the story of the designer, theres is also the costs to acquire, store, manage and study over the archives, the items for research, the trip to be inspired and so on.
You don't pay only a product, but what the product represent in his whole manufacturing: from the designer idea, to the last passage from the shop to you hand.

What I can say about EG garments is that the fabrics are very higher in quality, take for example the reverse satin of your trouser (that I have too) this heavy duty sateen is very difficult to find in the market, it may last a whole life, the grade of the cotton is superior.
Or the lining that EG use inside their jacket and trousers: it is made in a special type of cotton, it seems a normal twill but is not.


The stitching: this detail is the real value of the EG garments. Look the stitches in the corner of your fatigue short and see how the yarn design the "corner".


Construction of the garments are also very expensive: check the numbers and the position of bartacks in some styles (like the Cruiser jacket) each one need a special operation and of course this is translated in costs.

But theres' so many other detail we can talk about.

Also I say about the value of the brand.
It's clear that never like those last years EG is growing in the best shop of the worlds and also this value going to make the items expensive, because the lark up of the shops are not so low, and I agree with them cause the costs in managing a shop are very very higher.


So, in my personal opinion, yes, you right to say that some pieces of the collection are higher priced, for example some shirts... or shorts (maybe) but there are some other items that worth more than their price, compared to some other brand that make production in far east and cost exactly the same (or more) of EG.... that is New York made.

Well said!!!
post #857 of 1041
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Originally Posted by superego View Post

I've seen this posted multiple places on SW&D now and for the life of me, despite owning EG stuff myself, I don't understand what about this fit warrants the premium the pieces featured command. It looks like expensive casual wear to me--cut is generous with no details that really make the items worth their price point.
My first question would be: what's wrong with expensive casual wear if it's exactly what you want?

Seriously though, I don't really disagree with your point about these pieces in particular. They're summer items, and so for the sake of functionality they're going to be quite plain and lightweight. Like with most EG pieces though, the fabric is beautiful and has a rustic, uneven feeling that I love. That's not going to come across in photos, and in real life I'm sure the average person wouldn't notice that kind of stuff anyways; but I do, and it's just one of the reasons I'm willing to pay more for basic items like these.
post #858 of 1041
Superego - It's hard to explain the fetishism for the brand until you get into it. Yes, the prices have gone up over the years, but if you are talking "value" or cost per wear EG is a brand for you. I've had pieces since the mid 2000's that I've literally beat the hell out of and they are still going strong. The brand is like a puzzle with different sizing every season, different retailers carrying different pieces and the faithful like playing the game. Hell, the Nepenthes shop doesn't even carry their best stuff. It's a brand that I've fallen in and out of love with over the years, but like a good chick, it's always there when you need it.
post #859 of 1041
I didn't really appreciate EG fully until I started buying (and wearing) the pieces. Lots of details which don't come across in photos well.

Also, I think some people tend to style EG in a very business casual manner which I'm not too fond of.I think it really shines when styled in a more japanese street wear way. You have to fully embrace the look in order for it to look its best.

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post #860 of 1041
My reason is very simple : I am 42 years old, I can afford something nice (finally), and I don't want to wear the same GAP\ OLD NAVY\ FOREVER 21\ Kmart shorts as my teenager kids' friends wearing.

Also, I don't think "worth the price" ever apply to mid-to high fashion. Of course it is not worth it, if you like it and have the money, spend it. keep the economy going...
post #861 of 1041
well said
post #862 of 1041
Regarding pricing:

It's actually very reasonable considering the scale of their production, the factory location (NYC), and the quality of the fabrication. If anyone thinks EG is making obscene profits in their mark-up, well... they're only fooling themselves. In fact, considering the costs of their operation, I imagine EG struggles to keep the prices competitive. And despite the supposed 'high price,' the value for dollar is consistent if not better than almost every other comparable brand.

Long live EG.
post #863 of 1041
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Originally Posted by evilgeniusdan View Post

Long live EG.

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post #864 of 1041
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Originally Posted by mike868y View Post

Also, I think some people tend to style EG in a very business casual manner which I'm not too fond of.I think it really shines when styled in a more japanese street wear way. You have to fully embrace the look in order for it to look its best.

This sums it up perfectly. EG can easily get biz casual (jacket + pants + shirt) which doesn't do the line any justice. I fall victim to this really easily when getting ready for work in a rush.

We should gather some basic styling tips to avoid biz casual looks.
post #865 of 1041
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Originally Posted by the_state View Post

This sums it up perfectly. EG can easily get biz casual (jacket + pants + shirt) which doesn't do the line any justice. I fall victim to this really easily when getting ready for work in a rush.
We should gather some basic styling tips to avoid biz casual looks.

I think the best advice is to never size down to get a slim fit and embrace the fact that EG is cut with a fuller midsection. When I see guys who have sized down too much, the shoulders become way too tight and everything starts pulling and twisting.
Edited by TWorksheets - 6/8/12 at 11:45am
post #866 of 1041
also, you need more EG and similar brands in your closet to complete that look. accessories, styling, wear on the garments, hair and attitude all make a big difference. there's nothing wrong with wearing it in a more biz cas manner, I just don't think it does the brand justice.
post #867 of 1041
I was waiting for someone to speak out against why EG has premium prices.

You do know that everything is made right within 2-3 blocks of the actual office, right? A lot of people don't know that the Garment District is barely surviving and EG happens to be one of its main customers. The markup on the pieces is very little. I can only imagine profits aren't too high at all.

Like S-NMBR said, bartacks are just one example of why some pieces cost more. Look at the stitching of all EG pieces. Actively try to find the little details that are present in each piece.

Try on/inspect for yourself the actual EG pieces. From my personal experience, it's worth the price. I'll still be wearing my Bedford 10 years from now.
post #868 of 1041
I don't really want to speak for the quality of their stuff, because as mentioned 100 times over, its fantastic. I would hate to see this brand get too much hype, as it really is my favorite by a mile, but it really is worth talking about. I always cringe a bit when I pull the trigger on their stuff at retail, but those concerns are ALWAYS alleviated when I receive the item in person. I get multiple compliments on all of my EG stuff constantly for the details, but also the cut, fit and colors.
post #869 of 1041
Any place other than Odin that has the Indigo landsdown in M?
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