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the shah · Feb 7, 2012

my favorite thread ... has been DTed.

it's over now, the music of the night.

bunch of pretentious bundt cakes here anyway

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sipang · Feb 7, 2012

You can't unsubscribe from this thread, it's just not a possibility.

pickpackpockpuck · Feb 8, 2012

Two from Sokurov. An excerpt from Russian Ark, which was filmed in one unbroken shot, and a beautiful shot from Mother and Son.

sipang · Feb 8, 2012

Russian Ark was crazy, can't imagine the logistical nightmare it must've been to pull this off without the tiniest glitch. I think they only had access to the Hermitage bulidings for one day and needed a sufficient amount of daylight so the margin of error was almost non-existent, iirc they only did three takes, the first two were aborted only a few minutes in and the third one was the one.

pickpackpockpuck · Feb 8, 2012

Yeah, I can't imagine putting together a production like that. It must have been like coordinating an army. I read a while back about the challenges of making it, but I don't really remember any of it. It's a small miracle the idea worked at all. There's a documentary about the making called In One Breath. I've never seen it, but I've always been curious. On a side note, the movie is what most people would consider "slow," but I think most people still enjoy it. The lack of cuts and the continuous movement keeps you interested the whole way through. And it looks incredible from start to finish. There's always some new detail (or several new details) to look at while the camera floats around.

noob in 89 · Feb 8, 2012

pickpackpockpuck: On a side note, the movie is what most people would consider "slow...

Indeed. I've been curious to see if Hollywood will find a way to co-opt this, kind of like they did with that one Mike Figgis movie and 24 (which came out a year or so later, IIRC).

*Also, I've been switched to Rich Format editor and my quotes arent working.

bows1 · Feb 8, 2012

pickpackpockpuck said:
Yeah, I can't imagine putting together a production like that. It must have been like coordinating an army. I read a while back about the challenges of making it, but I don't really remember any of it. It's a small miracle the idea worked at all. There's a documentary about the making called In One Breath. I've never seen it, but I've always been curious. On a side note, the movie is what most people would consider "slow," but I think most people still enjoy it. The lack of cuts and the continuous movement keeps you interested the whole way through. And it looks incredible from start to finish. There's always some new detail (or several new details) to look at while the camera floats around.

:O So many extras, the paperwork alone must have been maddening. Working with like 15 extras sucks, let alone hundreds.

edit - omg and the travel plans to set ! No thank you

sipang · Feb 8, 2012

Yeah, I think there were about 2,000 actors/extras involved :wow:

I like slow films so I'm biased but I think you're right that the maintained fluidity/tension helps keep most ppl somewhat involved. And Mother & Son looks beautiful.

pickpackpockpuck · Feb 8, 2012

noobizor said:
pickpackpockpuck: On a side note, the movie is what most people would consider "slow...

Indeed. I've been curious to see if Hollywood will find a way to co-opt this, kind of like they did with that one Mike Figgis movie and 24 (which came out a year or so later, IIRC).

It would be near impossible to turn that into a Hollywood movie for so many reasons. I think it's safe. Since you bring it up, it drives me crazy when Hollywood remakes another movie exactly because Americans aren't willing to read subtitles. That really is the only reason. Well, and money. Some that come to mind are The Departed (originally Infernal Affairs) and Let Me In (Let the Right One In). At least Michael Haneke did his own remake of Funny Games.

bows1 · Feb 8, 2012

pickpackpockpuck said:
It would be near impossible to turn that into a Hollywood movie for so many reasons. I think it's safe. Since you bring it up, it drives me crazy when Hollywood remakes another movie exactly because Americans aren't willing to read subtitles. That really is the only reason. Well, and money. Some that come to mind are The Departed (originally Infernal Affairs) and Let Me In (Let the Right One In). At least Michael Haneke did his own remake of Funny Games.

I thought Funny Games was virtually shot for shot?

sipang · Feb 8, 2012

I think the only US remake I've ever liked is True Lies

pickpackpockpuck · Feb 8, 2012

bows1 said:
I thought Funny Games was virtually shot for shot?

Yeah, it was. Like exactly shot for shot. But Michael Haneke actually had a good reason, in my opinion, for remaking the movie in the U.S. with well-known actors. It's a movie about the way Hollywood movies portray violence. The biggest consumers of Hollywood violence are Americans, who of course won't watch a movie in subtitles, so redoing it the way he did was actually the best way to reach his target audience. I got to interview Haneke for work once. He's a very nice, jolly, enthusiastic man.

EDIT: feel like I should clarify that I don't particularly like Funny Games as a movie (my favorite Haneke movie is The White Ribbon, or maybe Caché). I think this sums it up pretty well. http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-03-11/film/one-trick-phony/

noob in 89 · Feb 8, 2012

pickpackpockpuck said:
It would be near impossible to turn that into a Hollywood movie for so many reasons. I think it's safe. Since you bring it up, it drives me crazy when Hollywood remakes another movie exactly because Americans aren't willing to read subtitles. That really is the only reason. Well, and money. Some that come to mind are The Departed (originally Infernal Affairs) and Let Me In (Let the Right One In). At least Michael Haneke did his own remake of Funny Games.

I dunno, I used to say this, but I actually ended up liking Let Me In a lot. It differed from the original in some very fundamental ways, Chloe Moretz was amazing, and that protracted car crash scene was just about the best thing to hit US celluloid since _____.

sipang · Feb 8, 2012

What about foreign remakes of US films ?

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