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post #8746 of 11094
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Originally Posted by abi1986 View Post

Hi Reguy,
may I ask you your size in Allen Edmonds?

Basically a 10.5D in every pair of AE I've owned.
post #8747 of 11094
If anyone's curious, Luisa sent me the following shoe, last and foot dimensions for Hiro size UK9.5 (I didn't see dimensions for this size anywhere in this thread yet):

HIRO 9,5UK

L 311mm shoe outsole 9,5UK.
W 111mm shoe outsole 9,5UK.
L 294mm last insole 9,5UK.
W 104mm last insole 9,5UK.
Foot 27,6 cm 9,5UK
post #8748 of 11094
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Originally Posted by REguy View Post


Basically a 10.5D in every pair of AE I've owned.

ok thanks!

cause I'm a 10E in AE and I was wandering if i have to size down 1 or 0.5 in Meermin... but i guess that a 9 will be fine for me!

post #8749 of 11094
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Originally Posted by leetpuma View Post

Do you guys think I should go with Meermin's suggestion of an 8UK or go with the 7.5UK which I expected?

I think you're overthinking this.

You've already preselected the last. This is the number one shoe sizing mistake. You can't expect a preselected last to fit properly. One might be lucky, of course, but you can't count on it.

You've made the same mistake with your Alden's and AE's. They are completely off in lenght if you measured your foot length correctly (see my site for instructions). With a foot length of 270mm, your reference sizes are UK 8.5 and US 9.5.

For instance, shoes in US 8.0 are down 1.5 units from your reference size, which means the minimum toe allowence of 1.5 units is gone. It's not a surprise that your toes were touching the tip of the shoe. But US 8.5 is hardly any better.

Expressed differently, you're not a D width in a common last. Try C or B the next time you're visiting a store. By the way, you can measure your foot length more correctly with AE's shoe sizing guide. Just substract half a unit from the results (because traditional devices such as Brannock or AE's sizing guide use 2 full units for toe allowence for some reason).

For Meermin's Hiro, that means you will die at least one death:
  • UK 7.5 is off in length (1 unit), but its probably about right in volume (maybe slightly tight).
  • UK 8.0 is better in length (0.5 units off), but it might be a little loose in volume.

It comes down to your personal preference which kind of mismatch is less important to you.
post #8750 of 11094
Claus - I've read a bunch of threads on shoe sizing and this is the first time I've seen your input. Great stuff, and your site concept looks legitimately helpful (why didn't someone - or even the manufacturers - come up with this sooner?).

Maybe I'm late to the party and have just been missing you, but if you're not posting more, you should be.
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Originally Posted by Claus View Post

I think you're overthinking this.

You've already preselected the last. This is the number one shoe sizing mistake. You can't expect a preselected last to fit properly. One might be lucky, of course, but you can't count on it.

You've made the same mistake with your Alden's and AE's. They are completely off in lenght if you measured your foot length correctly (see my site for instructions). With a foot length of 270mm, your reference sizes are UK 8.5 and US 9.5.

For instance, shoes in US 8.0 are down 1.5 units from your reference size, which means the minimum toe allowence of 1.5 units is gone. It's not a surprise that your toes were touching the tip of the shoe. But US 8.5 is hardly any better.

Expressed differently, you're not a D width in a common last. Try C or B the next time you're visiting a store. By the way, you can measure your foot length more correctly with AE's shoe sizing guide. Just substract half a unit from the results (because traditional devices such as Brannock or AE's sizing guide use 2 full units for toe allowence for some reason).

For Meermin's Hiro, that means you will die at least one death:
  • UK 7.5 is off in length (1 unit), but its probably about right in volume (maybe slightly tight).
  • UK 8.0 is better in length (0.5 units off), but it might be a little loose in volume.

It comes down to your personal preference which kind of mismatch is less important to you.
post #8751 of 11094
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Originally Posted by razl View Post

Claus - I've read a bunch of threads on shoe sizing and this is the first time I've seen your input. Great stuff, and your site concept looks legitimately helpful (why didn't someone - or even the manufacturers - come up with this sooner?).

Maybe I'm late to the party and have just been missing you, but if you're not posting more, you should be.

Thank you. smile.gif

Admittedly, my side has a usability problem. One has to know a bit about sizing to understand the rationale for a recommendation. I already have a new prototype running which will be hopefully more transparent, and easier to understand.

And there are brands which invest in this sort of thing. It's just not the kind of brands we discuss here.
post #8752 of 11094
@Claus: You mentioned units instead of length...how much is one (1) unit to you in your description to leetpuma?
Edited by Geran Brown - 1/16/14 at 3:14pm
post #8753 of 11094
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Originally Posted by Geran Brown View Post

@Claus: You mentioned units instead of length...how much is one (1) unit to you in your description to leetpuma?
UK and US units are 1/3 inch which equals 8.47 mm.
post #8754 of 11094
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Originally Posted by Claus View Post

UK and US units are 1/3 inch which equals 8.47 mm.
Interesting, I've never knew that until today. I'm going to try your website once I get my wife to trace my foot.

Where did you find this Unit measurement at because I can't find it anywhere?
post #8755 of 11094
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Originally Posted by Geran Brown View Post

Where did you find this Unit measurement at because I can't find it anywhere?


Wikipedia's page on shoes size mentions that the UK system is based on Barleycorn. Three barleycorns equals 1 inch. The US system is a variant of the UK system. Overall, however, the page is a mess, and I think, much there is incorrect.

Thus, I corroborated the info from other sources I could get my hands on. For instance, in the "International encyclopedia of ergonomics and human factors, Volume 2" by Waldemar Karwowski [Ed.], one contributor writes:
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In the US and Uk systems, the shoe size length changes by 1/3 inch per shoe size and the girth by 1/4 inch per shoe size.

William J. Bodziak, in "Footwear impression evidence: detection, recovery, and examination" writes:
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The English system measures sizes in increments of 1/3 inch in length, with half sizes of 1/6 in. The size scale begins at 4 in. in length with size 0. After size 13, which measures 8 1/3 in, the sizing begin again at the next 1/3-in. increment again with 1.

Generally speaking, your shoes got their size because a master last is arbitrarily labeled, and then graded. The grading procedure works by appyling pre-defined differences. If you're into maths, shoe sizing is defined by the first derivative.

In practise, it's is a bit more complicated, but that's the gist.

To get back on topic, Meermin seems to follow the same formular I use. They are better in estimating shoe and foot volume, because I don't have many ratings and measurements for Meermin, yet.
post #8756 of 11094
@Claus: Thanks for the explanation. I really do appreciate it smile.gif

I really need to get my feet measured correctly because the AE store measured it at an 8D on the Brannock and Meermin suggest I get a 7D in all their shoes...lol
post #8757 of 11094
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Originally Posted by Rev0 View Post

Plum museums have arrived! No flaws that I can see, and the colour is beautiful. 
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Both the 'museum' effect and the 'plum' shade are more subtle than I was expecting, which is perfect IMO. Unique in the right lighting, but not outrageous.

Thanks to terrorsquad for organising!



Ok I'm sold. I need to get in on one of these MTOs icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #8758 of 11094
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Originally Posted by Shawl Lapel View Post


Ok I'm sold. I need to get in on one of these MTOs icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

+1

post #8759 of 11094

Got my plum museums as well today. I'm very happy with it, no noticeable flaws. And as a little bonus a Saphir Medaille d'Or High Gloss wax in burgundy was included. Now I'm wondering, won't the colored wax obscure the 'museum' effect and should I use a clear wax instead?

post #8760 of 11094

I got two pairs of meermins this week (my third and fourth pair),  dark brown quarter brogues on the olfe last and tan country calf longwings on the rui last. I was afraid the sizing would be off on the olfe last, but it seems to work out fine. They are both UK11, and the rui is a bit spacy, but not so much that it's a problem. 

 

But there is another problem: they sent me the wrong shoe trees. They are marked 46/47, whereas my older ones are marked 44/45. They barely fit in the shoes, and getting them in is quite hard. Will this damage the shoes or make them crease weirdly? Or are shoe trees supposed to be a tight fit? 

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