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post #7831 of 11066
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Originally Posted by NMW1982 View Post

The prices that Meermin charges just shows the obscene profits that makers like Gaziano & Girling and Edward Green are making.

I bet it costs G&G not more than $100 to make a pair of shoes with labor included. They then turn around and charge $1,200. Not bad I say.

I could not help myself here. This is probably the most naive thing that I have ever read. Clearly you don't know a lot about shoes nor their manufacturing. But just to give you an idea, the leather that G&G uses for one pair of shoes costs more than $100 not to mention the many other (and higher) costs that go into a pair of shoes....

EG, G&G and the like are not ripping people off by any means....people like Gucci, Prada and LV are....quality costs money, which is why you have to pay a lot to get it.......but a business cannot stay a business if there is not a profit, so of course they are making some money to keep afloat and pay themselves for the hard work they put in, just like all of you are in your own fields of work. If any of you are lawyers, do you think that you are giving great value for money? Your CEO any of your companies is laughing it up, trust me! Shoemakers are not rich people....that's for sure....
post #7832 of 11066
They have a few lasts
Apologies if this has been posted. However, I have only read the first 5 pages and there seem to be a lot of talk over comparable lasts.
Hope this can help.
post #7833 of 11066
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Originally Posted by konda View Post
 

High margins are always present in fashion. Just think of watches... The cost of making a TAG is over 10 times less than the recommended sales price. Heck even Hugo Boss watches only cost some tens of euros to make and they are sold for hundreds of euros. That's just the way it is and if one can't afford to buy then GTFO and go to a GAP outlet.

Not true, many companies operate on lower margin and higher turnover (Zara, H&M, Uniqlo ect).

 

I don't really disagree with you, I just felt that your third statement was kind of snobish. Should someone who can't afford better things not be interested? Or be aware of the value of a welted repairable shoe?

post #7834 of 11066
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Originally Posted by NMW1982 View Post


I bet it costs G&G not more than $100 to make a pair of shoes with labor included. They then turn around and charge $1,200. Not bad I say.

 

The level of ignorance demonstrated here is truly astonishing.

post #7835 of 11066
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Originally Posted by RogerP View Post
 

 

The level of ignorance demonstrated here is truly astonishing.

 

For real, 

<$100 worth of labor?

post #7836 of 11066
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Originally Posted by konda View Post

 
High margins are always present in fashion. Just think of watches... The cost of making a TAG is over 10 times less than the recommended sales price. Heck even Hugo Boss watches only cost some tens of euros to make and they are sold for hundreds of euros. That's just the way it is and if one can't afford to buy then GTFO and go to a GAP outlet.
Not true, many companies operate on lower margin and higher turnover (Zara, H&M, Uniqlo ect).

I don't really disagree with you, I just felt that your third statement was kind of snobish. Should someone who can't afford better things not be interested? Or be aware of the value of a welted repairable shoe?

I think he was angry at the ignorance the original poster.

As for lower margins and higher turnover, that is a realty competitive market where it's cost driven, where the high end shoemakers are playing in a totally different market.
post #7837 of 11066
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Originally Posted by jaywhyy View Post

For real, 


<$100 worth of labor?

The only thing I was quite disappointed when I saw this video is that I thought that G&G lasted their shoes by hand.
post #7838 of 11066
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Originally Posted by Dan e gee View Post

They have a few lasts
Apologies if this has been posted. However, I have only read the first 5 pages and there seem to be a lot of talk over comparable lasts.
Hope this can help.

 

 

Thanks, hadn't seen that before.  Look at the vil last...did anyone fit into that thing.

post #7839 of 11066
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Originally Posted by Betelgeuse View Post
 
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Originally Posted by jaywhyy View Post

For real, 


<$100 worth of labor?

The only thing I was quite disappointed when I saw this video is that I thought that G&G lasted their shoes by hand.

 

They are also GYW, rather than hand welted (bespoke not withstanding)

post #7840 of 11066
Got some pics of the new chiseled last.pictures to follow soon
post #7841 of 11066
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Originally Posted by Handmadeshoes View Post


I could not help myself here. This is probably the most naive thing that I have ever read. Clearly you don't know a lot about shoes nor their manufacturing. But just to give you an idea, the leather that G&G uses for one pair of shoes costs more than $100 not to mention the many other (and higher) costs that go into a pair of shoes....

EG, G&G and the like are not ripping people off by any means....people like Gucci, Prada and LV are....quality costs money, which is why you have to pay a lot to get it.......but a business cannot stay a business if there is not a profit, so of course they are making some money to keep afloat and pay themselves for the hard work they put in, just like all of you are in your own fields of work. If any of you are lawyers, do you think that you are giving great value for money? Your CEO any of your companies is laughing it up, trust me! Shoemakers are not rich people....that's for sure....

 

Well said, Justin.  And let's not overlook the small detail that G&G make their shoes in England, where the minimum wage for an adult is around $10, and where they have to follow strict health and safety procedures, give paid sick leave, and having a maximum working week of 48 hours.  Whereas Meermin make their shoes in China, in conditions about which it would be unfair to speculate, yet one can safely assume are nowhere near the above: even when enforced, the minimum wage in China is as low as $1 per hour.  Then add in the fact that G&G or either high end makers use less than 10% of each hide, whereas (judging by some pics above) there's barely a millimetre of scrotum or sphincter that doesn't make it through the Meermin QC, then frankly it's amazing that the price disparity is so little.

 

As you said, the rip off is when cheap shoes are sold as "luxury items" based on brand alone - rather like clothing, "fashion" watches etc.  But when like is compared to like i.e. shoes made by shoemakers, it is often true that you get what you pay for.  I think Meermin are often good value.  So are Loake's Indian-made line, or the Samuel Windsor goodyear welted Chinese-made shoes I buy for my teenaged son.  Fantastically cheap.  Just let's not kid ourselves as to why, or that all things are ever equal.  I'm sure there's a sweet spot where quality and workmanship balance with slightly lower costs: Carmina? Vass?  But I doubt that true bargain point is as high up as G&G, or as low as Meermin.

post #7842 of 11066
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

there's barely a millimetre of scrotum that doesn't make it through the Meermin QC

I lol'd when I read this.
post #7843 of 11066

Glad to be of service :)

post #7844 of 11066

Some update on the new chiseled last; here are the pics. Would be further refined so watch this space =)

 

 

 

 

post #7845 of 11066

When can this be used for MTO orders? I want my jodhpurs made to this.

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