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post #7816 of 11033

My pair or AE MacNeils still don't look like cordovan shoes despite regular wear for a year. I guess that's a good thing then.

post #7817 of 11033
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Originally Posted by VRaivio View Post

Not a pair of mine but I saw some members on this thread pondering about Meermin's shell cordovan. Here's an example from GG on how this leather of theirs looks after a few wears.

Oxblood-Cordovan-Tassel-Loafers-by-Meermin-with-red-blue-striped-socks-by-Fort-Belvedere-red-Indochino-slacks.jpg

Shell is supposed to be among the oiliest and waxiest leather types, but these look dry as hell. Buyer beware.

 

 

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Originally Posted by MarioImpemba View Post
 

 

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That being said, as DavidLane suggests, I am certain I could get that pair of Merms lookin' proper with some work (product and effort).

 

 

I've had a pair of Meermin burgundy shell shoes for a year now.  Completely agree with how ridiculously dry they seemed at first.  I kept getting the white streaks in the flex points and, in some places, it even looked like the finish was coming off.  They looked terrible until I finally switched from Renovateur to Saphir burgundy cordovan creme.  That seemed to do the trick as it evened out the color and finishing issues the shoes had and the white streaks disappeared.  The Meermin shell is different from Horween as it seems stiffer and less prone to developing rolls.  Here is a recent picture from a few months ago.

 

post #7818 of 11033
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Originally Posted by DavidLane View Post

As with all leathers there is going to be a range of quality withing the tanning and production. The shells Meermin use do not come from Horween, which happens to be the only shell I have handled and worked with, so I cannot speak to any level of expertise on Meermin's shells.

I too have a number of cordovan shoes, more than I should I suppose, and one or two belts. One of these belts, which is Horween shell from Alden, and looks very much like the shoes in the image after each wear. I started to put a coat of Saphir on it after each use and it is now beginning to take on the moisture some 8 months later. 

While they look rough, they may just need more maintenance than your other shells, try giving them a coat of Saphir after each wear for a few weeks/months. 

I guess my point in all this, with the collective pouncing on Meermin for spotty quality and poor leathers, is to keep in mind that leather is a natural product with a wide range of properties and differences from hide to hide. Leather is a skin and needs to be treated as such. Some skins are dry, some are oily, but they all need a little TLC, some more than others. 

I am in no way excusing the flaws in craftsmanship, there is no excuse for that. 

My .02 anyway.

David- 

that is all well and good, but doesn't change the fact that those shoes, in that picture, look freaking terrible.
post #7819 of 11033
Thanks good feedback. Though are you comparing EEA to Meermin classic or LM?
post #7820 of 11033
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post
 

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Ya, those look good, and good feedback for everyone.

post #7821 of 11033
The prices that Meermin charges just shows the obscene profits that makers like Gaziano & Girling and Edward Green are making.

I bet it costs G&G not more than $100 to make a pair of shoes with labor included. They then turn around and charge $1,200. Not bad I say.

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Originally Posted by Jermyn View Post

I know, I´m still trying to figure out how they´re making money on them.

The trees are lasted and cost €35, they are more EG than St.C but decent for the price nonetheless.
post #7822 of 11033
quality and value never going to match up in luxury brands, the difference is definitely more than what you stated, but the shoes are better from those brands, and they are charge at a higher margin.
post #7823 of 11033
True, but that's because they are in need of a good polish.

David-
post #7824 of 11033
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Originally Posted by NMW1982 View Post

I bet it costs G&G not more than $100 to make a pair of shoes with labor included. 

So you're saying if the materials for G&Gs cost nothing, the labor is rated at 10-15 hours at minimum wage per shoe? 

post #7825 of 11033
New Shoes1, yours are on another level entirely. Just shows one how a bit of time and effort makes a world of difference -- and yes, those Crockett&Jones pairs look as dry as they come. Strange to see this on that factory's shoes as I've a soft spot for C&J. I'd still hope that the clickers at each firm could tell an oily hide from a dry hide, treating both accordingly. Moisturising sessions shouldn't be pushed at the customer's responsibility.
post #7826 of 11033

My new snuff suede chukkas after about a week's wear. They broke the skin on my heels when I went to the first long walk but they are starting to shape to my feet now and they feel nice and sturdy!

post #7827 of 11033

I sent these shoes in march for early refurbish(shoes get wet feet after walking during 10 min or 500-700 m). Got them back in 31 May. I put them on 4 days ago, after repairs. I emailed to Sandro, Luisa and Pepe... but I did not receive answer.

post #7828 of 11033
Meermin's taking an ass kicking on the forum.
post #7829 of 11033
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Originally Posted by NMW1982 View Post

The prices that Meermin charges just shows the obscene profits that makers like Gaziano & Girling and Edward Green are making.

I bet it costs G&G not more than $100 to make a pair of shoes with labor included. They then turn around and charge $1,200. Not bad I say.

You've been a member since 2005 and you're still not seeing the justification for high end shoe mfr's higher prices? I thought that was, at most, a year 2 SF evolutionary requirement. Maybe we need testing...
post #7830 of 11033

High margins are always present in fashion. Just think of watches... The cost of making a TAG is over 10 times less than the recommended sales price. Heck even Hugo Boss watches only cost some tens of euros to make and they are sold for hundreds of euros. That's just the way it is and if one can't afford to buy then GTFO and go to a GAP outlet. If Meermin's MTO quality was in general perception better, they could easily slam 100 € more to the price and STILL be an extremely well priced MTO shoemaker.

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