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post #7816 of 12105
quality and value never going to match up in luxury brands, the difference is definitely more than what you stated, but the shoes are better from those brands, and they are charge at a higher margin.
post #7817 of 12105
True, but that's because they are in need of a good polish.

David-
post #7818 of 12105
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Originally Posted by NMW1982 View Post

I bet it costs G&G not more than $100 to make a pair of shoes with labor included. 

So you're saying if the materials for G&Gs cost nothing, the labor is rated at 10-15 hours at minimum wage per shoe? 

post #7819 of 12105
New Shoes1, yours are on another level entirely. Just shows one how a bit of time and effort makes a world of difference -- and yes, those Crockett&Jones pairs look as dry as they come. Strange to see this on that factory's shoes as I've a soft spot for C&J. I'd still hope that the clickers at each firm could tell an oily hide from a dry hide, treating both accordingly. Moisturising sessions shouldn't be pushed at the customer's responsibility.
post #7820 of 12105

My new snuff suede chukkas after about a week's wear. They broke the skin on my heels when I went to the first long walk but they are starting to shape to my feet now and they feel nice and sturdy!

post #7821 of 12105

I sent these shoes in march for early refurbish(shoes get wet feet after walking during 10 min or 500-700 m). Got them back in 31 May. I put them on 4 days ago, after repairs. I emailed to Sandro, Luisa and Pepe... but I did not receive answer.

post #7822 of 12105
Meermin's taking an ass kicking on the forum.
post #7823 of 12105
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The prices that Meermin charges just shows the obscene profits that makers like Gaziano & Girling and Edward Green are making.

I bet it costs G&G not more than $100 to make a pair of shoes with labor included. They then turn around and charge $1,200. Not bad I say.

You've been a member since 2005 and you're still not seeing the justification for high end shoe mfr's higher prices? I thought that was, at most, a year 2 SF evolutionary requirement. Maybe we need testing...
post #7824 of 12105

High margins are always present in fashion. Just think of watches... The cost of making a TAG is over 10 times less than the recommended sales price. Heck even Hugo Boss watches only cost some tens of euros to make and they are sold for hundreds of euros. That's just the way it is and if one can't afford to buy then GTFO and go to a GAP outlet. If Meermin's MTO quality was in general perception better, they could easily slam 100 € more to the price and STILL be an extremely well priced MTO shoemaker.

post #7825 of 12105
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Originally Posted by NMW1982 View Post

The prices that Meermin charges just shows the obscene profits that makers like Gaziano & Girling and Edward Green are making.

I bet it costs G&G not more than $100 to make a pair of shoes with labor included. They then turn around and charge $1,200. Not bad I say.

I could not help myself here. This is probably the most naive thing that I have ever read. Clearly you don't know a lot about shoes nor their manufacturing. But just to give you an idea, the leather that G&G uses for one pair of shoes costs more than $100 not to mention the many other (and higher) costs that go into a pair of shoes....

EG, G&G and the like are not ripping people off by any means....people like Gucci, Prada and LV are....quality costs money, which is why you have to pay a lot to get it.......but a business cannot stay a business if there is not a profit, so of course they are making some money to keep afloat and pay themselves for the hard work they put in, just like all of you are in your own fields of work. If any of you are lawyers, do you think that you are giving great value for money? Your CEO any of your companies is laughing it up, trust me! Shoemakers are not rich people....that's for sure....
post #7826 of 12105
They have a few lasts
Apologies if this has been posted. However, I have only read the first 5 pages and there seem to be a lot of talk over comparable lasts.
Hope this can help.
post #7827 of 12105
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High margins are always present in fashion. Just think of watches... The cost of making a TAG is over 10 times less than the recommended sales price. Heck even Hugo Boss watches only cost some tens of euros to make and they are sold for hundreds of euros. That's just the way it is and if one can't afford to buy then GTFO and go to a GAP outlet.

Not true, many companies operate on lower margin and higher turnover (Zara, H&M, Uniqlo ect).

 

I don't really disagree with you, I just felt that your third statement was kind of snobish. Should someone who can't afford better things not be interested? Or be aware of the value of a welted repairable shoe?

post #7828 of 12105
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I bet it costs G&G not more than $100 to make a pair of shoes with labor included. They then turn around and charge $1,200. Not bad I say.

 

The level of ignorance demonstrated here is truly astonishing.

post #7829 of 12105
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The level of ignorance demonstrated here is truly astonishing.

 

For real, 

<$100 worth of labor?

post #7830 of 12105
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Originally Posted by konda View Post

 
High margins are always present in fashion. Just think of watches... The cost of making a TAG is over 10 times less than the recommended sales price. Heck even Hugo Boss watches only cost some tens of euros to make and they are sold for hundreds of euros. That's just the way it is and if one can't afford to buy then GTFO and go to a GAP outlet.
Not true, many companies operate on lower margin and higher turnover (Zara, H&M, Uniqlo ect).

I don't really disagree with you, I just felt that your third statement was kind of snobish. Should someone who can't afford better things not be interested? Or be aware of the value of a welted repairable shoe?

I think he was angry at the ignorance the original poster.

As for lower margins and higher turnover, that is a realty competitive market where it's cost driven, where the high end shoemakers are playing in a totally different market.
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