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Konda, it's Museum calf leather and I am unsure about last
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What last and color are these shoes made in?
Not sure about last (initial thought is Rey but they look softer) but it looks like they used the best of the museum calf!
Edit; found it! Ama last
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What last and color are these shoes made in?

Museam wholecuts on Ama last.

http://meerminshoes.tumblr.com/post/55267423343/meermin-mto-norvegese-wholecut-for-mr-nrf-ama
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is that museum calf group MTO from terrorsquad?

thanks

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Ahh thanks all. That looks awesome. I'd still love to see a wholecut in New Rey to see if it works or not.

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Not in my opinion and experience. Tried both in various sizes and I find them quite alike. Then again as the last is too wide for me, my opinion may be biased based on the fact that it doesn't fit me properly.

hehe I like the disclaimer at the end but appreciate the comments.  Ah well worst case scenario they crease a little on the side like the loakes (which is better than creasing on the top imo) best case scenario they fit awesomely, think ill just roll the dice, really like the look of the dark brown in the newer pics they posted a cpl of pages back.

post #6952 of 11564
Bozzkeren; no but it looks like they used the best of the leather for it!

Konda; there's a New rey wholecut in the Novegesse section, albeit punched. I've got them in black. there's also model 102139 in the standard LM line
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Darn so there is! Thanks man!
 

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Darn so there is! Thanks man!

 
Ya welcome! biggrin.gif
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Good article here from the Shoe Snob...

http://www.theshoesnobblog.com/

 

The contemptuous tone is off-putting. It's a matter of perspective. If they think the complaining about quality is bad in this thread, the Wolverine thread would cause an aneurysm; worrying about a few light scuffs on a casual boot made in an easily scuffable leather is absurd.  But, my guess is the same thing is going on there as it is here, which is, entry-level brands like Wolverine 1000-mile, Allen Edmonds, Meermin, et al., are a lot of persons first foray in to "quality" footwear, and they have high expectations.

 

If you own shoes that cost 2x as much as Meermins, and they have their own subtle perceived flaws, it is easier to be dismissive of more glaring flaws on the less expensive Meermins. Conversely, if Meermins cost 2x as much as any other shoe you've owned, you'd expect it to have less perceivable aesthetic flaws than what you already own, no? You'd be hard pressed to find a crooked toe cap on a $150 pair of Cole Haans. $300 on shoes is a big jump for some (most) people.

 

That said, some of the complaints are a little silly, but often it seems like posters are more looking for reassurance that perceived flaws are inconsequential, than they are wildly disappointed.

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^I sign off on the Allen Edmonds reference. They indeed have leather flaws in their shoes as well. I own quite a few and not all of them are perfect when it comes to the quality of the leather. Then again the MTO pair of Alfred Sargents I ordered also have a couple of defects. One just has to live them them.

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The contemptuous tone is off-putting. It's a matter of perspective. If they think the complaining about quality is bad in this thread, the Wolverine thread would cause an aneurysm; worrying about a few light scuffs on a casual boot made in an easily scuffable leather is absurd.  But, my guess is the same thing is going on there as it is here, which is, entry-level brands like Wolverine 1000-mile, Allen Edmonds, Meermin, et al., are a lot of persons first foray in to "quality" footwear, and they have high expectations.

If you own shoes that cost 2x as much as Meermins, and they have their own subtle perceived flaws, it is easier to be dismissive of more glaring flaws on the less expensive Meermins. Conversely, if Meermins cost 2x as much as any other shoe you've owned, you'd expect it to have less perceivable aesthetic flaws than what you already own, no? You'd be hard pressed to find a crooked toe cap on a $150 pair of Cole Haans. $300 on shoes is a big jump for some (most) people.

That said, some of the complaints are a little silly, but often it seems like posters are more looking for reassurance that perceived flaws are inconsequential, than they are wildly disappointed.

I agree with everything here. I also find it strange that the guy sounding off about realistic expectations was only recently blogging about having to sort out the QC issues on his own shoe line due to the inconsistencies in manufacture, and his factory is in Spain!
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The J Fitzpatrick shoe line is awesome, hardly any QC issues whatsoever, and its similarly priced to Meermin. Why is he defending Meermin if he manages to make well constructed shoes with very little issues, while Meermin can't?
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I think what you guys are describing is the law of diminishing returns. How do you value a $1million Bugatti to $200k Ferrari to a $80k Porches to $25k Suburu? You can get a lot of value in the Porches and Suburu and would you expect to get 40 times the car with a Bugatti? And all these cars will have flaws of their own.
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The J Fitzpatrick shoe line is awesome, hardly any QC issues whatsoever, and its similarly priced to Meermin. Why is he defending Meermin if he manages to make well constructed shoes with very little issues, while Meermin can't?

 

You're kidding aren't you? Meermin's shoes are substantially cheaper than J Fitzpatrick (~GBP320 vs ~EUR260 for LM) close to 2/3rds the price on current exchange rates

Justin doesn't produce anything close to the volumes Meermin does. He's defending Meermin because he has far more knowledge and experience in shoe making that just about anyone on here! I've got 3 pairs of Meermins and the only QC issue I have is that on my classic line suede derbies the nape of the suede is in opposite directions. (which makes no cosmetic difference 99% of the time)

The fact is that forum participants are more likely to complain about their issues (no matter how small) than they are to report on their expectations being met. I completely understand the blog entry Justin made and I am totally sympathetic. Some of the complaints I read on here really annoy me (some are legitimate and I sympathise)

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