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post #6451 of 12106
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Originally Posted by JaymzBawnd View Post

Hey guys,

I'm a young novice gent just beginning to build my wardrobe with quality purchases (much in part thanks to this forum).  I'm considering buying two Meermins:

The black calf oxford - http://meermin.es/ficha_articulo.php?id=1920
 
&

The light brown calf monk - http://meermin.es/ficha_articulo.php?id=1950


Two questions: what sort of pants will go best with the light brown monks? I realize the black calf oxford should be quite versatile as it is a rather simple shoe. I find the light brown calf monk to be beautiful, but worry that I won't be able to wear it with jeans.

Secondly, as for sizing - in the US I am a 10 E.  The AE Park Avenues in this size seem to fit well (they were my first REAL shoe purchase made two months ago) but are just a little tight in the toe box and have taken a while to fully break in.  The black calf oxford is the Ama last (E+) and the light brown calf monk is the Hiro last (E).  Luisa from Meermin suggested that I choose a 9.5 UK size.  Do you think I will run into sizing issues?

Many thanks

 

I would highly recommend you get the whole-cut oxford referenced above in the dark brown instead of black.  I don't see it listed, but if you email Pepe or anyone at Meermin, they have been very agreeable to make versions of existing shoes in a different leather if it's readily available. 

 

As versatile as you think the black shoe is, the brown is tenfold more versatile.  Some on here will disagree, but brown is so much more versatile than black, especially if you are business casual for work.  A black wholecut will look inappropriate/wrong with almost any pair of pants other than gray, charcoal, or navy trousers.  The brown version of the same shoe could be worn with all of those same color trousers, as well as almost any color chinos and jeans (if appropriately dressy jeans, paired with sport coat and sport shirt).  Just my $.02.

 

The light brown monks will work with almost any color.  I think they are less optimal with darker greys and charcoal, and certainly not black, but other than that almost any mid-light gray, blue, brown, other trouser/jean/chino will look good to great.  Just experiment with the colors and fits.

 

I also recommend a full size down from your US size.

post #6452 of 12106

I am one to disagree, possibly.  The brown is versatile in a "works with jeans or a blazer" sense.  If you're a casual dresser, then this advice is sound.  But if you normally wear a suit and work in a more formal environment, then black whole cuts are good for the office rotation but can also double as your black tie (tuxedo) shoes.

 

And on sizing I'd definitely disagree: I wear 9.5 in most UK sizes, in a medium or wide fitting according to the last.  I wear a 10E in Allen Edmonds.  Pepe told me I would find ALL Meermin lasts too narrow in my normal size.

post #6453 of 12106
Ok, guys, I found out the reason for the high customs fees! I called UPS supply chain mgmt, and talked to someone in "post entry", a supervisor. It turns out the Meermin send in a declaration of value with a HTS code of 6404.20.... I forget the rest. This results in a tariff fee of 38%. After discussing the construction of the shoe, we both concluded that the correct code is 6403.59.30.40. The fee for this code is only 5%! This is for a shoe with leather sole and upper, with welt construction. The UPS person was Danny Curtis (person is a woman). Since this was an error on their part, I sent an email to Sandro, advising them to use the correct code for future orders, and asked them to refund the extra $100 I was charged. Waiting to hear back from them. If you got hit with the same charge, I would advise sending them a msg also. Hopefully, they will use the correct code from now on and this issue has been resolved. Just FYI, HTS = harmonized tariff schedule. I got the scedule from the US International Trade Commission.

 

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Is there a common factor to you both being hit with this charge?
post #6454 of 12106
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Originally Posted by MRMstl View Post

I also recommend a full size down from your US size.

Vil or New Rey I'd go down 1/2 size so US10 = UK9.5, maybe Olfe too. The others go down a full size so US10 = UK9
post #6455 of 12106
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

I am one to disagree, possibly.  The brown is versatile in a "works with jeans or a blazer" sense.  If you're a casual dresser, then this advice is sound.  But if you normally wear a suit and work in a more formal environment, then black whole cuts are good for the office rotation but can also double as your black tie (tuxedo) shoes.

 

And on sizing I'd definitely disagree: I wear 9.5 in most UK sizes, in a medium or wide fitting according to the last.  I wear a 10E in Allen Edmonds.  Pepe told me I would find ALL Meermin lasts too narrow in my normal size.

 

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Originally Posted by MRMstl

 

I would highly recommend you get the whole-cut oxford referenced above in the dark brown instead of black.  I don't see it listed, but if you email Pepe or anyone at Meermin, they have been very agreeable to make versions of existing shoes in a different leather if it's readily available. 

 

As versatile as you think the black shoe is, the brown is tenfold more versatile.  Some on here will disagree, but brown is so much more versatile than black, especially if you are business casual for work.  A black wholecut will look inappropriate/wrong with almost any pair of pants other than gray, charcoal, or navy trousers.  The brown version of the same shoe could be worn with all of those same color trousers, as well as almost any color chinos and jeans (if appropriately dressy jeans, paired with sport coat and sport shirt).  Just my $.02.

 

The light brown monks will work with almost any color.  I think they are less optimal with darker greys and charcoal, and certainly not black, but other than that almost any mid-light gray, blue, brown, other trouser/jean/chino will look good to great.  Just experiment with the colors and fits.

 

I also recommend a full size down from your US size.

Thanks guys, much appreciated. My office attire is largely business casual (slacks + button down).  I currently have a pair of AE Park Avenues in dark brown, hence I feel it makes sense to  go with something in Black.  Maybe another cap toe would be better served?

I am very new to all of this, but my essential goal is to add two pairs of shoes: one quality shoe fit for wearing to the office, and another with a bit more spice to wear on the weekends.  I have a decent collection of loafers (penny/bit), hence was drawn to the monk straps.  But the more I think about, they may be too much to wear with blue jeans.  Any thoughts (within Meermin's collection or beyond) are much appreciated! Thanks again!

post #6456 of 12106
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Originally Posted by Fred G. Unn View Post


Vil or New Rey I'd go down 1/2 size so US10 = UK9.5, maybe Olfe too. The others go down a full size so US10 = UK9

 

But he's a wide fitting too...so avoid those two altogether and only half size down for the rest.

post #6457 of 12106
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Originally Posted by mimo View Post

I am one to disagree, possibly.  The brown is versatile in a "works with jeans or a blazer" sense.  If you're a casual dresser, then this advice is sound.  But if you normally wear a suit and work in a more formal environment, then black whole cuts are good for the office rotation but can also double as your black tie (tuxedo) shoes.

 

I predicated my advice on the assumption that he is business casual...

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Originally Posted by MRMstl View Post

As versatile as you think the black shoe is, the brown is tenfold more versatile.  Some on here will disagree, but brown is so much more versatile than black, especially if you are business casual for work. 

 

 

Frankly, there is almost no need for black shoes if you are business casual.  Unless you are regularly attending black tie events (which it doesn't sound like you are), I would recommend at least 5 pairs of brown shoes before you bother with black.  Some of the ultra-conservative around here might consider that blashpemy.   decisions.gif

Follow your heart.

 

FWIW, I had 12+ pairs of brown shoes before purchasing a pair of black double monks.  Still don't own a pair of black captoes and yet the world keeps turnin'.

 

As for the monks with jeans...IMO, a regular/dark brown monk usually looks better with jeans than tan.  I don't find myself wearing tan "dress" shoes too often with jeans.  The only tan shoes I wear with jeans are my super casual loafers (mocs, boat shoes, etc.), and that's generally just running errands or super casual afternoon events on the weekends. 

 

The double monks are also totally appropriate for your workwear, so don't feel you can only use them to add "spice" to your weekend attire.

post #6458 of 12106
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Originally Posted by numberpro View Post

Ok, guys, I found out the reason for the high customs fees! I called UPS supply chain mgmt, and talked to someone in "post entry", a supervisor. It turns out the Meermin send in a declaration of value with a HTS code of 6404.20.... I forget the rest. This results in a tariff fee of 38%. After discussingthe construction of the shoe, we both concluded that the correct code is 6403.59.30.40. The fee for this code is only 5%! This is for a shoe with leathersole and upper, with welt construction. The UPS person was Danny Curtis (person is a woman).Since this was an error on their part, I sent an email to Sandro, advising them to use the correct code for future orders, and asked them to refund the extra $100 I was charged. Waiting to hear back from them. If you got hit with the same charge, I would advise sending them a msg also. Hopefully, they will use the correct code from now on and this issue has been resolved. Just FYI, HTS = harmonized tariff schedule. I got the scedule from the US International Trade Commission.

 

 

Report back on whether Meermin takes care of this for you.  Completely their fault, and I hope a refund is coming your way.

post #6459 of 12106
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Originally Posted by MRMstl View Post

I predicated my advice on the assumption that he is business casual...

 

Frankly, there is almost no need for black shoes if you are business casual.  Unless you are regularly attending black tie events (which it doesn't sound like you are), I would recommend at least 5 pairs of brown shoes before you bother with black.  Some of the ultra-conservative around here might consider that blashpemy.   decisions.gif

Follow your heart.

 

FWIW, I had 12+ pairs of brown shoes before purchasing a pair of black double monks.  Still don't own a pair of black captoes and yet the world keeps turnin'.

 

As for the monks with jeans...IMO, a regular/dark brown monk usually looks better with jeans than tan.  I don't find myself wearing tan "dress" shoes too often with jeans.  The only tan shoes I wear with jeans are my super casual loafers (mocs, boat shoes, etc.), and that's generally just running errands or super casual afternoon events on the weekends. 

 

The double monks are also totally appropriate for your workwear, so don't feel you can only use them to add "spice" to your weekend attire.

Awesome, I've always preferred brown leather, and intuitively felt that it looked better/was more versatile, but for some reason assumed that I needed black in the mix.  Brown it is! Now I think I'm going to have to wait for the rest of you to get to the bottom of Meermin's "dutygate" before I strike. 

post #6460 of 12106
Are the measurements for width and height on Meermin's website accurate? And is that for the shoe or the foot?
post #6461 of 12106

I am in Oklahoma USA and I did not get hit with any custom fees on the one pair that I have received.
 

post #6462 of 12106
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Originally Posted by mothon View Post

I am in Oklahoma USA and I did not get hit with any custom fees on the one pair that I have received.
 

 

price point?

 

and which carrier?

post #6463 of 12106

Guys, just wanted you opinion.

 

For a chiseled last, which of three below do you prefer:

1) Vass U-last

2) Carmina Rain last

3) Carmina Simpson last

 

Appreciate any feedback on this icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

post #6464 of 12106
I think Vass U last is the only one considered a chiseled last.

I don't think the Simpson and Rain on the Carmina are considered chiseled. But I might be wrong.

In any case, I think the U last looks more elegant overall.

Interested in hearing more opinions.
post #6465 of 12106
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Originally Posted by bboysdontcryy View Post

I think Vass U last is the only one considered a chiseled last.

I don't think the Simpson and Rain on the Carmina are considered chiseled. But I might be wrong.

In any case, I think the U last looks more elegant overall.

Interested in hearing more opinions.

I would agree U last looks best of the three, though something just doesn't seem quite right about how 'vertical' the walls of the toe box (and fwd of there) are.

The Carmina lasts don't have this 'issue' but don't look as good to me. (Simpson is my second preference)

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