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So, after the monday email exchange I mentioend here, I received an official request to pay today, saying that my shoes will be shipped in 10days. Cannot wait!

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Originally Posted by Swede66 View Post


Thanx.
Due to the strongly Swedish krona it is a fair price. I will most certainly be hit by import tax in Sweden though, and again it is less attractive...


Why not turn to skoaktiebolaget? I'd wish we had such a shop for customized Carmina in The Netherlands. They might not have the exact same model but there's still a lot to drool over.

 

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Is it big difference between the Hiro and the Olfe last?

 

 

I'm very curious about this too. How do the widths compare?

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Excuse me if I rain on your parade but there are minor features with the product Meermin offers that I find somewhat annoying. I will list them:

 

- Broad eyelets (and lack of varying distance?) - Make them look undistinguished. Or perhaps it's a combination of too broad eyelets and a large adelaide broguing that is punched too broad on the vamp (I want both details subtle). Or perhaps I'm talking nonesense? Compared to let's say http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7171/cjwestbourne1do9.jpg.

- Alot of black calf. It's no secret that brown calf is more versatile and hence would sell better.

- The lasts. I think Meermin can do better. To use New rey as a benchmark for Linnea Maestro is wrong. The last is too pointy.

 

But then again, I do not own a pair in person and can't for sure say that Meermin uses different eyelet stance than that of other manufacturers. Perhaps I'm totally wrong criticizing Meermin.

 

Fortunately, Meermin recently added http://meermin.es/ficha_articulo.php?id=2723. The Olfe last is more attractive than NR imo. Unfortunately they decided to introduce a black calf and a navy (!?) calf prior to a brown calf. The latter would perhaps be an instant buy in my book. Can anyone compare the before-mentioned C&J Westbourne and the Meermin 102390? 

 

Kind regards.


Edited by Silhouette - 3/9/13 at 4:00am
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1. Yea you are right and I've been saying that since Meermin pop into SF's radar. The eyelet distance is unrefined.

2. Nothing wrong with black calf. Don't like it? Go MTO. Want to go full igent? Order triple monk cordovan boot in #8

3. MTO solves everything. NR last is inelegant, gaudy, and hard to size for everyone. Pick a last that fits instead of pick a last that you like but doesn't fit.
post #4655 of 11432
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

1. Yea you are right and I've been saying that since Meermin pop into SF's radar. The eyelet distance is unrefined.

2. Nothing wrong with black calf. Don't like it? Go MTO. Want to go full igent? Order triple monk cordovan boot in #8

3. MTO solves everything. NR last is inelegant, gaudy, and hard to size for everyone. Pick a last that fits instead of pick a last that you like but doesn't fit.

 

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Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post

Excuse me if I rain on your parade but there are minor features with the product Meermin offers that I find somewhat annoying. I will list them:

 

- Broad eyelets (and lack of varying distance?) - Make them look undistinguished. Or perhaps it's a combination of too broad eyelets and a large adelaide broguing that is punched too broad on the vamp (I want both details subtle). Or perhaps I'm talking nonesense? Compared to let's say http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7171/cjwestbourne1do9.jpg.

- Alot of black calf. It's no secret that brown calf is more versatile and hence would sell better.

- The lasts. I think Meermin can do better. To use New rey as a benchmark for Linnea Maestro is wrong. The last is too pointy.

 

But then again, I do not own a pair in person and can't for sure say that Meermin uses different eyelet stance than that of other manufacturers. Perhaps I'm totally wrong criticizing Meermin.

 

Fortunately, Meermin recently added http://meermin.es/ficha_articulo.php?id=2723. The Olfe last is more attractive than NR imo. Unfortunately they decided to introduce a black calf and a navy (!?) calf prior to a brown calf. The latter would perhaps be an instant buy in my book. Can anyone compare the before-mentioned C&J Westbourne and the Meermin 102390? 

 

Kind regards.

Nothing wrong with expressing an opinion, even if you've never seen the shoe in person.  However, as someone who does own a pair and has more on order, I think I can address your points.

 

  1. Unrefined eyelets and broguing:  I just looked very carefully at a pair of meermin in the Hiro last and I can assure you that the eyelets are indeed spaced varyingly as they taper from wide to narrow moving up from the toe.  To me this gives them a very elegant look when worn as they then are spaced rather symetrically which doesn't attract attention for the wrong reasons.  As for the brogue, I've seen some very expensive shoes with outrageous broguing and I think Meemin does a very good job in restraining themselves from that in nearly their entire collection. 
  2. Too much black calf:  I'm having a hard time understanding this complaint.  Nearly every black shoe in the lineup has a brown/burgundy counterpoint as well as a good selection of suede.  I also have to add that outside the igent bubble most people in the US and UK do wear much more black than brown so if there is a slight leaning toward that, it's completely understandable from a business perspective.
  3. You don't like the New Rey last.  That's fine, then consider the Hiro from the classic line.  I know it's not handwelted but it's still very nice and only a fraction of what you'll pay for the same quality shoe from most other makers.  If you don't like the Hiro, then I'd suggest Andrew Lock, Septieme Largeur, ed et al, or another inexpensive maker with decent shoes that are goodyear welted. 

 

In the end, I don't think you're raining on anyone's parade, merely expressing opinions as fact.  As another poster commented, if you don't like exactly what Meermin offers in its regular lineup, then go MTO.  Meermin will pretty much make anything you want on any last you like so long as they can get the materials.

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Originally Posted by kcox68 View Post

Nothing wrong with expressing an opinion, even if you've never seen the shoe in person.  However, as someone who does own a pair and has more on order, I think I can address your points.

 

  1. Unrefined eyelets and broguing:  I just looked very carefully at a pair of meermin in the Hiro last and I can assure you that the eyelets are indeed spaced varyingly as they taper from wide to narrow moving up from the toe.  To me this gives them a very elegant look when worn as they then are spaced rather symetrically which doesn't attract attention for the wrong reasons.  As for the brogue, I've seen some very expensive shoes with outrageous broguing and I think Meemin does a very good job in restraining themselves from that in nearly their entire collection. 
  2. Too much black calf:  I'm having a hard time understanding this complaint.  Nearly every black shoe in the lineup has a brown/burgundy counterpoint as well as a good selection of suede.  I also have to add that outside the igent bubble most people in the US and UK do wear much more black than brown so if there is a slight leaning toward that, it's completely understandable from a business perspective.
  3. You don't like the New Rey last.  That's fine, then consider the Hiro from the classic line.  I know it's not handwelted but it's still very nice and only a fraction of what you'll pay for the same quality shoe from most other makers.  If you don't like the Hiro, then I'd suggest Andrew Lock, Septieme Largeur, ed et al, or another inexpensive maker with decent shoes that are goodyear welted. 

 

In the end, I don't think you're raining on anyone's parade, merely expressing opinions as fact.  As another poster commented, if you don't like exactly what Meermin offers in its regular lineup, then go MTO.  Meermin will pretty much make anything you want on any last you like so long as they can get the materials.

 

 

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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

1. Yea you are right and I've been saying that since Meermin pop into SF's radar. The eyelet distance is unrefined.

2. Nothing wrong with black calf. Don't like it? Go MTO. Want to go full igent? Order triple monk cordovan boot in #8

3. MTO solves everything. NR last is inelegant, gaudy, and hard to size for everyone. Pick a last that fits instead of pick a last that you like but doesn't fit.

 

Thank you both for your serious attempts to answer my questions and hence remove my doubts. Altough you give me ambiguous opinions concerning the eyelets, I guess I shall have to look at more irl pictures and make up my own mind. Perhaps Meermin should create a catalog of MTO and RTW and put up on their site, in order to give people a good notion on how shoes look delivered. As for the black calf, I agree. I don't know what I was thinking. However, my theory can be applied to the example I gave. Why add a black and a blue but not a brown?

 

As for MTO, how much is it? Shipped within the EU. LM (260) + 100 EUR?

 

Kind regards.

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Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post

 

 

 

Thank you both for your serious attempts to answer my questions and hence remove my doubts. Altough you give me ambiguous opinions concerning the eyelets, I guess I shall have to look at more irl pictures and make up my own mind. Perhaps Meermin should create a catalog of MTO and RTW and put up on their site, in order to give people a good notion on how shoes look delivered. As for the black calf, I agree. I don't know what I was thinking. However, my theory can be applied to the example I gave. Why add a black and a blue but not a brown?

 

As for MTO, how much is it? Shipped within the EU. LM (260) + 100 EUR?

 

Kind regards.

You'll find several examples of various MTOs on Meermin's Tumbler site http://meermin.tumblr.com/.  As for the offering in blue, I have no idea why they went with that but it's only a limited offer so I suppose they just wanted to have some fun with things.  Lastly, while I don't have the file, if you look back through this thread a bit you'll find a pdf file with the cost of MTO.  Off the top of my head I think I remember it being a 40 EUR premium, but don't take my word for that.

 

Hope that helps.

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Originally Posted by kcox68 View Post

You'll find several examples of various MTOs on Meermin's Tumbler site http://meermin.tumblr.com/.  As for the offering in blue, I have no idea why they went with that but it's only a limited offer so I suppose they just wanted to have some fun with things.  Lastly, while I don't have the file, if you look back through this thread a bit you'll find a pdf file with the cost of MTO.  Off the top of my head I think I remember it being a 40 EUR premium, but don't take my word for that.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Thank you for your quick response.

 

Below the pictures, the blogger has written "Some MTO projects ready to be shipped" (http://25.media.tumblr.com/f39fac025f6526e6c2a09dceb644946d/tumblr_mil5wx4cYa1rjrq3ko3_1280.jpg). Do you know if there's any conditions for one to order? Is it a minimum requirement of ordered shoes for Meermin to make the model? 40 EUR premium sounds outrageously low and a very good value for us consumers. Talking about lasts, which can be perceived as the one clostest in resemblence to the 348 of C&J? I'm looking for something with a low instep but at the same time not very elongated or pointy.

 

I find the aforementioned monkstrap very attractive. Should anyone be interested, set me up for a MTO.

 

Kind regards.

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As for MTO, how much is it? Shipped within the EU. LM (260) + 100 EUR?
If I recall correctly, EU shipping is €20 so total MTO cost for LM handwelted would be 380 using available lasts and leathers
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If I recall correctly, EU shipping is €20 so total MTO cost for LM handwelted would be 380 using available lasts and leathers

 

Excellent answer, thank you.

 

Now then, as a benchmark for better goodyear welted shoes, I like to use C&J Handgrade. If anyone has experience with both C&J HG and Meermin MTO. Which one would you purchase? Given that the price of C&J HG are as linked http://www.farfetch.com/shopping/men/crockett-jones-audley-oxford-shoe-item-10305464.aspx. (480 EUR).

 

(I take it none of the aforementioned shoes are hand welted). 

 

Kind regards.

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Meermin linea maestro (which all MTO are) are hand welted. I also think, but correct me if I'm wrong that the MTO up charge has gone up a bit from 40 eu. When I got mine in Octboer last year I think it was 50, but I'm sure someone who has ordered in the meantime can let you know what it currently is.
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Originally Posted by Silhouette View Post

 

- Broad eyelets (and lack of varying distance?) - Make them look undistinguished. Or perhaps it's a combination of too broad eyelets and a large adelaide broguing that is punched too broad on the vamp (I want both details subtle). Or perhaps I'm talking nonesense? Compared to let's say http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/7171/cjwestbourne1do9.jpg.

 

 

I agree about the placing of the eyelets. That's been one of the things that's kept me from ordering. They look particularly strange with 6 eyelets, as seen on a good number of the models (this one for instance). I think some of the newer models look better, though ( like that adelaide you mentioned).

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Originally Posted by brillopad View Post

 

I agree about the placing of the eyelets. That's been one of the things that's kept me from ordering. They look particularly strange with 6 eyelets, as seen on a good number of the models (this one for instance). I think some of the newer models look better, though ( like that adelaide you mentioned).

 

Grotesqo! I agree.

 

However, I've seen the same 'broad' pattern on a pair of Gaziano and Girling http://i.imgur.com/kONCmJRh.jpg (altough five eyelets and not six). This effect is enhanced due to the close-up picture and due to flat laces rather than round laces. Disclaimer: I might be wrong. 


Edited by Silhouette - 3/9/13 at 3:07pm
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I think you guys, with respect, are over thinking it. It's something I've never even noticed on my shoes, and I've got a pretty broad range of brands including Carmina, meermin, C & J HG, loake and more. Buts it's your money, so who am I to judge.
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