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post #4276 of 11617
Classic line dark brown double monks with sunken toe plates fresh from FedEx- very satisfied with these, none of the blemishes from the pair someone posted a few days back Will be ordering more.

A timeline for those interested-

Ordered 1/21
Received and paid invoice on 1/23
Shipped 2/5
FedEx us customs clearance delay 2/9-2/11
Received 2/12
post #4277 of 11617

Still waiting on a response from Pepe if it's possible to source Horween for a MTO, or if I can provide the leather myself. I'm sure there's a massive risk they'll mess up the shoe, but I'd rather take the risk and be happier with a prettier cordovan color vs a dull one.

post #4278 of 11617
^ why not go with Carmina then and saw yourself the headache and ultimately time and money
post #4279 of 11617
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

^ why not go with Carmina then?

The 50% surcharge.

 

If I'm not mistaken, the Meermin MTO pdf that was passed around has cordovan shoes costing 320 - 420€ + 100 or 150€ MTO costs. At that price point it's still cheaper to get a custom shoe from Meermin in the cordovan color I want. 

 

Edit: (Required to pay VAT as well)

post #4280 of 11617

ordered 2 pair (1 size 8 1 size 9 ) 3rd of january....

 

been waiting since than.Appartently the size 8 is ready and the size 9 no... they did propose to me too the differenciated shipping which I appreciated but didn't mind as I've no hurry.

 

It seems to me too they got bit too popular in too little time. If I'll ever have the money I'll try Carmina ...Been looking on some used C&J and EG on ebay too, seems good value but dunno... Anyone has experience in buying used shoes?Doesn't it feel "weird" in some way? 

 

Maybe it's just me :-)

post #4281 of 11617

Update:

 

Pepe replied they'll been searching for a supplier for Horween shell, and they'd glad use whatever leather I provide for them.

post #4282 of 11617
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Originally Posted by Joshua Lee View Post

Update:

 

Pepe replied they'll been searching for a supplier for Horween shell, and they'd glad use whatever leather I provide for them.

 

Have they tried Horween in Chicago?

post #4283 of 11617
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Originally Posted by totolino85 View Post

ordered 2 pair (1 size 8 1 size 9 ) 3rd of january....

 

been waiting since than.Appartently the size 8 is ready and the size 9 no... they did propose to me too the differenciated shipping which I appreciated but didn't mind as I've no hurry.

 

It seems to me too they got bit too popular in too little time. If I'll ever have the money I'll try Carmina ...Been looking on some used C&J and EG on ebay too, seems good value but dunno... Anyone has experience in buying used shoes?Doesn't it feel "weird" in some way? 

 

Maybe it's just me :-)

I keep going back and forth on the merits of used shoes.  On the plus side, they're less expensive and as an environmentalist I like the idea that used shoes don't require manufacture so there's a savings in resources and pollution.  On the down side, wearing someone else's shoes seems similar to wearing they're underwear.  It's one of those things that just doesn't sit right with me.  I'll probably continue to buy new and try to make sure to get the most out of them.

 

As for Meermin, they seem to have the "too much of a good thing" problem.  They'll need to either ramp up production while improving quality control or become more adapt at managing customer expectations.  When a business says they'll deliver a product in 30 days, the customer will expect it in 30 days.  A day or two late won't be a problem but an extra month will be.  On the other hand, if they had written a little blurb about how the shoes were crafted to the finest specifications, blah, blah, blah, and not provided a timeline they couldn't meet, two months wouldn't be a problem.  Then if the shoes came after 30 days, we'd all be on line talking about how Meermin exceeds expectations and delivers ahead of schedule.

 

Too many businesses with good products can't seem to understand the basic rules of managing customer expectations.  I've had the same problems with a couple of other vendors I've found at SF.  They seem to have a great product but overpromise and then have to let people down.  I would have bought a couple pairs of shoes from a SF affiliate the other day but he never even bothered to return my email.  This company also sells suits, ties, and other apparel that I would gladly have considered.  Now, I don't feel like they want my custom.  Their loss as there are many places I can spend my money.  At least Luisa from Meermin showed very good customer service and bent over backward to make sure I was able to get at least one pair of shoes on time.  That level of service means they will continue to get my business.

post #4284 of 11617
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Originally Posted by kcox68 View Post

I keep going back and forth on the merits of used shoes.  On the plus side, they're less expensive and as an environmentalist I like the idea that used shoes don't require manufacture so there's a savings in resources and pollution.  On the down side, wearing someone else's shoes seems similar to wearing they're underwear.  It's one of those things that just doesn't sit right with me.  I'll probably continue to buy new and try to make sure to get the most out of them.

As for Meermin, they seem to have the "too much of a good thing" problem.  They'll need to either ramp up production while improving quality control or become more adapt at managing customer expectations.  When a business says they'll deliver a product in 30 days, the customer will expect it in 30 days.  A day or two late won't be a problem but an extra month will be.  On the other hand, if they had written a little blurb about how the shoes were crafted to the finest specifications, blah, blah, blah, and not provided a timeline they couldn't meet, two months wouldn't be a problem.  Then if the shoes came after 30 days, we'd all be on line talking about how Meermin exceeds expectations and delivers ahead of schedule.

Too many businesses with good products can't seem to understand the basic rules of managing customer expectations.  I've had the same problems with a couple of other vendors I've found at SF.  They seem to have a great product but overpromise and then have to let people down.  I would have bought a couple pairs of shoes from a SF affiliate the other day but he never even bothered to return my email.  This company also sells suits, ties, and other apparel that I would gladly have considered.  Now, I don't feel like they want my custom.  Their loss as there are many places I can spend my money.  At least Luisa from Meermin showed very good customer service and bent over backward to make sure I was able to get at least one pair of shoes on time.  That level of service means they will continue to get my business.

I wholeheartedly agree with you.

Don't forget that these guys have brick and mortar stores, and that is likely their first focus. The walk-in customers choose from existing inventory and inspect the shoes in person, so they avoid a lot of the issues they have with mail order. Seems like mail order is a stretch, plus they are adding custom on top of it, plus they are dealing with a demanding (as we should be) and sometimes fickle crowd here on SF.
post #4285 of 11617
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

^ why not go with Carmina then and saw yourself the headache and ultimately time and money

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Originally Posted by Joshua Lee View Post

Update:

Pepe replied they'll been searching for a supplier for Horween shell, and they'd glad use whatever leather I provide for them.

I applaud you for going for this, as it sounds like a fun project. But are you sure Namor's suggestion isn't best? How much lower is the price of their custom makeup, assuming they discount for no leather cost, plus your cost of obtaining the leather? And the risk of quality problems that ruins your leather and your investment.

Whatever you decide, it will be great to hear how it goes.
post #4286 of 11617
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

^ why not go with Carmina then and saw yourself the headache and ultimately time and money

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Originally Posted by Joshua Lee View Post

Update:

Pepe replied they'll been searching for a supplier for Horween shell, and they'd glad use whatever leather I provide for them.

I applaud you for going for this, as it sounds like a fun project. But are you sure Namor's suggestion isn't best? How much lower is the price of their custom makeup, assuming they discount for no leather cost, plus your cost of obtaining the leather? And the risk of quality problems that ruins your leather and your investment.

Whatever you decide, it will be great to hear how it goes.

Namor's suggestion would be the best option if Meermin doesn't offer a price adjustment for providing the shell myself. I believe shoes need 2 pieces of shell hide per pair, which would run about 350$ (260€), which would eliminate the price difference between Meermin and Carmina. 

post #4287 of 11617
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Originally Posted by Joshua Lee View Post

Namor's suggestion would be the best option if Meermin doesn't offer a price adjustment for providing the shell myself. I believe shoes need 2 pieces of shell hide per pair, which would run about 350$ (260€), which would eliminate the price difference between Meermin and Carmina. 

 

Are you sure you can get Horween shell?  My understanding is that Horween cannot supply shell for everyone that wants it and focuses on its largest customers.

post #4288 of 11617
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

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Originally Posted by Joshua Lee View Post

Namor's suggestion would be the best option if Meermin doesn't offer a price adjustment for providing the shell myself. I believe shoes need 2 pieces of shell hide per pair, which would run about 350$ (260€), which would eliminate the price difference between Meermin and Carmina. 

 

Are you sure you can get Horween shell?  My understanding is that Horween cannot supply shell for everyone that wants it and focuses on its largest customers.

A guy who makes custom wallets assured me he was able to get shell. I've also found a few websites selling a couple different colors of shell (#4,#8,blk) in various grades, but I'll need to see how hard it is to get the color I'm interested in (Dark cognac, grape, or navy).

post #4289 of 11617
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Originally Posted by Joshua Lee View Post

A guy who makes custom wallets assured me he was able to get shell. I've also found a few websites selling a couple different colors of shell (#4,#8,blk) in various grades, but I'll need to see how hard it is to get the color I'm interested in (Dark cognac, grape, or navy).

 

I'm very interested in how this works out for you and the ultimate cost.  Keep us updated.

post #4290 of 11617
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Originally Posted by kcox68 View Post

I keep going back and forth on the merits of used shoes.  On the plus side, they're less expensive and as an environmentalist I like the idea that used shoes don't require manufacture so there's a savings in resources and pollution.  On the down side, wearing someone else's shoes seems similar to wearing they're underwear.  It's one of those things that just doesn't sit right with me.  I'll probably continue to buy new and try to make sure to get the most out of them.

 

As for Meermin, they seem to have the "too much of a good thing" problem.  They'll need to either ramp up production while improving quality control or become more adapt at managing customer expectations.  When a business says they'll deliver a product in 30 days, the customer will expect it in 30 days.  A day or two late won't be a problem but an extra month will be.  On the other hand, if they had written a little blurb about how the shoes were crafted to the finest specifications, blah, blah, blah, and not provided a timeline they couldn't meet, two months wouldn't be a problem.  Then if the shoes came after 30 days, we'd all be on line talking about how Meermin exceeds expectations and delivers ahead of schedule.

 

Too many businesses with good products can't seem to understand the basic rules of managing customer expectations.  I've had the same problems with a couple of other vendors I've found at SF.  They seem to have a great product but overpromise and then have to let people down.  I would have bought a couple pairs of shoes from a SF affiliate the other day but he never even bothered to return my email.  This company also sells suits, ties, and other apparel that I would gladly have considered.  Now, I don't feel like they want my custom.  Their loss as there are many places I can spend my money.  At least Luisa from Meermin showed very good customer service and bent over backward to make sure I was able to get at least one pair of shoes on time.  That level of service means they will continue to get my business.

I kind of have the same feeling about used shoes, I think I'll try one day or another as I'd really like to own some John Lobb or EG and really can't afford them new :) expecially the new Paul Smith for EG, If I'd ever find the green ones used I think I'd get crazy about them and buy them :)

 

As of the rest of the post, I was actually fully aware of their delivery timing issues lately thanks to all of you here but I saw them on a guy one day in Frankfurt and I was so impressed I stopped him to ask him what brand where :-) So I decided to go for it nontheless and I'm not bothered .

I cant' say the same for my dad which is very pissed as he doesn't read this forum and doesnt' have a clue if his 160 euro were good value or notbiggrin.gif but that's again my fault not Meermin censored.gif

 

In italy we say something like you can have the bottle full and the wife drunk ...for 160 euro where I live I cant' even buy clark's desert boot , so well ... I'd wait untill hell freezes over for having such good looking shoes for that money!

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