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post #3361 of 11988
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Originally Posted by lychyrychy View Post

So below are my new shoes!
As for impression, I seriously think it is beyond AE by quite a margin. Closed channel, slick last, and handwelt to say a few. For the average snarky SF member, a very close look asks for better finish but it is fine for me. Shoes were very comfortable from the start. Leather is a little stiff which should require some breaking but that is not a negative.
Forgive me for my lack of shoe terminologies, but what I really am impressed at this price point is how well balanced the outter sole is for each shoe, you can see in the pictures taken the front of the shoes. I think this is a sign of long lasting soles and would be worn properly from the middle of the sole to outer edge.
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I really like these. As long as the leather looks well after 10 or 20 wearings I'd say you have a winnar! The leather looks a little 'tlat' right now but that should improve with wear and polish.

I am currently dipping into the Meermin pool with a couple of pairs in Suede for casual wear.

I don't know much about Meermin - do they make claims as to the tannage of the soles?
post #3362 of 11988
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post


well, closed channel doesn't add any value to me, nor does it make the shoe any longer lasting. its an appearance thing.
handwelt seems to be a claimed benefit, but given the percentage of issues inherent in goodyear shoes, I see no need to worry about the longevity of a goodyear shoe.
The rest is appearance. its definitely a more slick look than AE, whether thats a good thing or not is generally a style/personality determination.
Enjoy your shoes!

that's a very negative stance...

post #3363 of 11988
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post

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I don't know much about Meermin - do they make claims as to the tannage of the soles?

They might use the same source as Carmina.

post #3364 of 11988
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post

well, closed channel doesn't add any value to me, nor does it make the shoe any longer lasting. its an appearance thing.
handwelt seems to be a claimed benefit, but given the percentage of issues inherent in goodyear shoes, I see no need to worry about the longevity of a goodyear shoe.
The rest is appearance. its definitely a more slick look than AE, whether thats a good thing or not is generally a style/personality determination.
Enjoy your shoes!

Yeah value is in the eye of the beholder. I could be wrong but technically, isn't more expensive/ require more labor to produce close channel?

Also, the outer soles got a curve that allow even wear from the center of the sole to the edge. I think this requires some detail to attention as well as skillful shoe makers. At $300, quite a value in my eyes. smile.gif
post #3365 of 11988
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post

I really like these. As long as the leather looks well after 10 or 20 wearings I'd say you have a winnar! The leather looks a little 'tlat' right now but that should improve with wear and polish.
I am currently dipping into the Meermin pool with a couple of pairs in Suede for casual wear.
I don't know much about Meermin - do they make claims as to the tannage of the soles?

Will report back after 10 to 20 wears.
post #3366 of 11988
Nice pair of brogues! Were they MTM?
post #3367 of 11988
Quick! Someone work out for me what the time/cost difference would be if I wanted to get a pair of those balmoral boots Carmina is doing in shell made by Meermin in calf.

kthxbai
post #3368 of 11988

Thinking of getting a pair of the double monks from Meermin.  If anyone has pictures of theirs in the wild I would appreciate it.  I'm trying to decide between the new scotch grain or the suede.

post #3369 of 11988
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Originally Posted by Zarium View Post

Nice pair of brogues! Were they MTM?

Yes
post #3370 of 11988
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Originally Posted by lychyrychy View Post

So below are my new shoes!
As for impression, I seriously think it is beyond AE by quite a margin. Closed channel, slick last, and handwelt to say a few. For the average snarky SF member, a very close look asks for better finish but it is fine for me. Shoes were very comfortable from the start. Leather is a little stiff which should require some breaking but that is not a negative.
Forgive me for my lack of shoe terminologies, but what I really am impressed at this price point is how well balanced the outter sole is for each shoe, you can see in the pictures taken the front of the shoes. I think this is a sign of long lasting soles and would be worn properly from the middle of the sole to outer edge.
Pictures! Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)









 

Which last is that? New Rey?

post #3371 of 11988
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Originally Posted by kwhunter View Post

that's a very negative stance...

no its a realistic stance.
post #3372 of 11988
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Originally Posted by lychyrychy View Post

Yeah value is in the eye of the beholder. I could be wrong but technically, isn't more expensive/ require more labor to produce close channel?
Also, the outer soles got a curve that allow even wear from the center of the sole to the edge. I think this requires some detail to attention as well as skillful shoe makers. At $300, quite a value in my eyes. smile.gif

Yes, it is more expensive to do a closed channel, but the real benefit is the look of the sole with no stitching. Further, if the channel covering comes loose (as it has on some peoples) it can be unsightly and require repair.

The curve of the outsole is interesting and I haven't really look at my shoes for that. I wonder if thats still the case when you are actually standing in the shoe.
post #3373 of 11988
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Originally Posted by lychyrychy View Post

Yeah value is in the eye of the beholder. I could be wrong but technically, isn't more expensive/ require more labor to produce close channel?
Also, the outer soles got a curve that allow even wear from the center of the sole to the edge. I think this requires some detail to attention as well as skillful shoe makers. At $300, quite a value in my eyes. smile.gif

Close channel sole is more labor intensive and has a construction benefit as well.

Hand welting also has a construction benefit, is again much more labor intensive, and actually require more skilled laborers.

Center sole lump is a mark of a quality shoes observed in Lobb and EG but not at the other benchgrade shoes.
post #3374 of 11988
I have always heard that the closed channel sole is purely cosmetic with no real benefit, with regards to "construction".

I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think Nick A. at B. Nelson was the last person to tell me this (right after I asked for closed channel soles as part of a re-sole job).
post #3375 of 11988
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Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post

well, closed channel doesn't add any value to me, nor does it make the shoe any longer lasting. its an appearance thing.
handwelt seems to be a claimed benefit, but given the percentage of issues inherent in goodyear shoes, I see no need to worry about the longevity of a goodyear shoe.
The rest is appearance. its definitely a more slick look than AE, whether thats a good thing or not is generally a style/personality determination.
Enjoy your shoes!

Quote:
Originally Posted by lychyrychy View Post

Yeah value is in the eye of the beholder. I could be wrong but technically, isn't more expensive/ require more labor to produce close channel?
Also, the outer soles got a curve that allow even wear from the center of the sole to the edge. I think this requires some detail to attention as well as skillful shoe makers. At $300, quite a value in my eyes. smile.gif

Quote:
Originally Posted by Quadcammer View Post

Yes, it is more expensive to do a closed channel, but the real benefit is the look of the sole with no stitching. Further, if the channel covering comes loose (as it has on some peoples) it can be unsightly and require repair.
The curve of the outsole is interesting and I haven't really look at my shoes for that. I wonder if thats still the case when you are actually standing in the shoe.

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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Close channel sole is more labor intensive and has a construction benefit as well.
Hand welting also has a construction benefit, is again much more labor intensive, and actually require more skilled laborers.
Center sole lump is a mark of a quality shoes observed in Lobb and EG but not at the other benchgrade shoes.

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Originally Posted by PhiloVance View Post

I have always heard that the closed channel sole is purely cosmetic with no real benefit, with regards to "construction".
I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I think Nick A. at B. Nelson was the last person to tell me this (right after I asked for closed channel soles as part of a re-sole job).


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