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Originally Posted by Skelnik View Post

After waiting weeks for Meermin to offer some cordovan or naturcalf boots with their MTO program I'm about to give up and purchase boots elsewhere. Winter is coming.

New MTO's and alas... still not cordovan boots. 

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Originally Posted by AMD500 View Post
 

New MTO's and alas... still not cordovan boots. 


Saw that.  Suede only.  Sigh......

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Originally Posted by crdb View Post

Would you mind taking some photos? I've never seen museum calf shoes with some use on them, would love to see how the patina evolves (especially with your two-tone process).

Sure thing. Here they are in the wild this morning. I'll try to snap a pic in the sun later so it's easier to see the patina.
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Originally Posted by billikenman View Post

Sure thing. Here they are in the wild this morning. I'll try to snap a pic in the sun later so it's easier to see the patina.

With a bit of sunlight:
post #15305 of 15511

Beautiful stuff. A lot less conspicuous than I thought - from a distance, almost plain dark burgundy shoes. Get closer and you see the full glory.

 

Next MTO then.

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Hi guys, need some help. Find a Meermin in Hiro last G width on eBay. I am a typical 7.5 D. Is Hiro G width will be too wide for my feet?
post #15307 of 15511
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Originally Posted by CloudLi View Post

Hi guys, need some help. Find a Meermin in Hiro last G width on eBay. I am a typical 7.5 D. Is Hiro G width will be too wide for my feet?


Hi CloudLi,

 

I found these measurements of the Hiro last in 7.5UK and 8UK, as well as on the Elton last:

 

HIRO

L 294 mm shoe outsole 7.5UK

W 104 mm shoe outsole 7.5UK

L 276 mm last insole 7.5UK

W 099 mm last insole 7.5UK

Foot 25.8 cm 7.5UK

 

L 298 mm shoe outsole 8UK

W 105 mm shoe outsole 8UK

L 280 mm last insole 8UK

W 101 mm last insole 8UK

Foot 26.3 cm 8UK

 

ELTON

L 300mm shoe outsole 7.5UK

W 105 mm shoe outsole 7.5UK

L 280 mm last insole 7.5UK

W 100 mm last insole 7.5UK

Foot 26.1 cm 7.5UK

 

L 304 mm shoe outsole 8UK

W 106 mm shoe outsole 8UK

L 284 mm last insole 8UK

W 101 mm last insole 8UK

Foot 26.4 cm 8UK

 

Maybe you can use these as reference points to determine your best size. I'd suggest contacting Meermin with your measurements so they can suggest the best fit shoe size.

 

Hope this helps!

post #15308 of 15511
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Originally Posted by JRas View Post
 


Hi CloudLi,

 

I found these measurements of the Hiro last in 7.5UK and 8UK, as well as on the Elton last:

 

HIRO

L 294 mm shoe outsole 7.5UK

W 104 mm shoe outsole 7.5UK

L 276 mm last insole 7.5UK

W 099 mm last insole 7.5UK

Foot 25.8 cm 7.5UK

 

L 298 mm shoe outsole 8UK

W 105 mm shoe outsole 8UK

L 280 mm last insole 8UK

W 101 mm last insole 8UK

Foot 26.3 cm 8UK

 

ELTON

L 300mm shoe outsole 7.5UK

W 105 mm shoe outsole 7.5UK

L 280 mm last insole 7.5UK

W 100 mm last insole 7.5UK

Foot 26.1 cm 7.5UK

 

L 304 mm shoe outsole 8UK

W 106 mm shoe outsole 8UK

L 284 mm last insole 8UK

W 101 mm last insole 8UK

Foot 26.4 cm 8UK

 

Maybe you can use these as reference points to determine your best size. I'd suggest contacting Meermin with your measurements so they can suggest the best fit shoe size.

 

Hope this helps!

Really appreciate. I contacted Meermin and they give me Elton size for 6.5 UK (I am 7.5 US). I just wonder how much difference between G width and standard width. BTW, where did you get this info?

post #15309 of 15511
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Originally Posted by CloudLi View Post
 

Really appreciate. I contacted Meermin and they give me Elton size for 6.5 UK (I am 7.5 US). I just wonder how much difference between G width and standard width. BTW, where did you get this info?


I found it on the goodyearwelt subreddit, so I thought I'd share it here. You can contact Meermin before putting in an order and they can send you some measurements for the last the shoe is made with. I'm sure the picture below has been posted numerous times on here, but it depicts the width of the more common lasts; Vil being the most narrow, while Terry being the most wide. Considering that Hiro is towards the center, I would put it on par with a D or E US width (their website says it is a "standard fitting width: E"). To get a better understanding, it would help if someone with a Hiro shoe describe the fitting and compare it to other shoe lasts that they have. Hope this helps!

 

http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2dyjhkLq21r3fk48o1_1280.jpg 

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Originally Posted by JRas View Post


I found it on the goodyearwelt subreddit, so I thought I'd share it here. You can contact Meermin before putting in an order and they can send you some measurements for the last the shoe is made with. I'm sure the picture below has been posted numerous times on here, but it depicts the width of the more common lasts; Vil being the most narrow, while Terry being the most wide. Considering that Hiro is towards the center, I would put it on par with a D or E US width (their website says it is a "standard fitting width: E"). To get a better understanding, it would help if someone with a Hiro shoe describe the fitting and compare it to other shoe lasts that they have. Hope this helps!

http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2dyjhkLq21r3fk48o1_1280.jpg
 

Wow, ive never seen a pair built with ben or terry last.
post #15311 of 15511
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Originally Posted by JRas View Post
 


I found it on the goodyearwelt subreddit, so I thought I'd share it here. You can contact Meermin before putting in an order and they can send you some measurements for the last the shoe is made with. I'm sure the picture below has been posted numerous times on here, but it depicts the width of the more common lasts; Vil being the most narrow, while Terry being the most wide. Considering that Hiro is towards the center, I would put it on par with a D or E US width (their website says it is a "standard fitting width: E"). To get a better understanding, it would help if someone with a Hiro shoe describe the fitting and compare it to other shoe lasts that they have. Hope this helps!

 

http://66.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2dyjhkLq21r3fk48o1_1280.jpg 

 

That infographic is outdated by now. It shows discontinued lasts, and is missing quite a few new ones. Furthermore, someone pointed out (and I don't remember who) that it's meant to illustrate differences in toe shapes, not width.

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Originally Posted by starro View Post
 

 

That infographic is outdated by now. It shows discontinued lasts, and is missing quite a few new ones. Furthermore, someone pointed out (and I don't remember who) that it's meant to illustrate differences in toe shapes, not width.


I agree that it is pretty outdated, and some of the lasts that aren't very popular on their site is posted on eBay as seconds. The illustration does indeed depict toe shape and the last widths are also considered, if you look at the bottom of the picture you can see a line depicting narrow of the left and wide on the right (measurements I've received and mentioned in earlier posts show a difference in width for different lasts as well). The only way to determine the width by a certain size is going to Meermin's site and hover over last details with your mouse over the shoes you want, shown below. Don't know how reliable this is, but it's something to work with if you don't have exact measurements.

 

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Originally Posted by JRas View Post
 


I agree that it is pretty outdated, and some of the lasts that aren't very popular on their site is posted on eBay as seconds. The illustration does indeed depict toe shape and the last widths are also considered, if you look at the bottom of the picture you can see a line depicting narrow of the left and wide on the right (measurements I've received and mentioned in earlier posts show a difference in width for different lasts as well). The only way to determine the width by a certain size is going to Meermin's site and hover over last details with your mouse over the shoes you want, shown below. Don't know how reliable this is, but it's something to work with if you don't have exact measurements.

 

 

You're right. In general people shouldn't come away with the false hope that they'd get a good fit, if only a few numbers match. Instead, simply embrace the crapshoot!

 

What do I mean? There are too many unpredictable factors in receiving a pair of Meermin (or really any RTW shoe). If one factor is off by a lot, then you get a misfit. Having just the length and width isn't half-way near nailing down a good fit; other important measurements:

  • Heel-to-ball length: arguably more important than heel-to-toe
  • Instep and arch requirements: really tricky for oxfords
  • Toe box

And I'm sure I'm leaving out many more. And of course, the manufacturing process introduces many more variables, such as

  • Change/evolution in lasts: Meermin (and all manufacturers in all likelihood) continually evolves their lasts; witness how they kept reshaping the Rey till it had to become "New Rey"
  • One-off irregularities (this would happen with Meermin and many more expensive brands): a slip here, too much cut off there, over-overlapping in another part can cumulate into a different fit than one intended; which leads to...
  • Left-right mismatch: not only do the 2 shoes not match up 100%, but no one's two feet are really 100% symmetrical; doubling the degrees of freedom only makes finding good fit harder

 

Luckily, if the shoes are constructed all-around with quality leather, they have an amazing capacity for reshaping and molding to the feet that get inserted day in, day out. So overall trying to guess the degree of fit of an untried last+size combination is inconclusive at best. To expect decent fit from knowing just the length and width (and a couple of display photos) is to set oneself up for disappointment. RTW is all about finding acceptable compromises, and dealing with the vicissitudes in a way one can stomach.

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Originally Posted by starro View Post
 

 

You're right. In general people shouldn't come away with the false hope that they'd get a good fit, if only a few numbers match. Instead, simply embrace the crapshoot!

 

What do I mean? There are too many unpredictable factors in receiving a pair of Meermin (or really any RTW shoe). If one factor is off by a lot, then you get a misfit. Having just the length and width isn't half-way near nailing down a good fit; other important measurements:

  • Heel-to-ball length: arguably more important than heel-to-toe
  • Instep and arch requirements: really tricky for oxfords
  • Toe box

And I'm sure I'm leaving out many more. And of course, the manufacturing process introduces many more variables, such as

  • Change/evolution in lasts: Meermin (and all manufacturers in all likelihood) continually evolves their lasts; witness how they kept reshaping the Rey till it had to become "New Rey"
  • One-off irregularities (this would happen with Meermin and many more expensive brands): a slip here, too much cut off there, over-overlapping in another part can cumulate into a different fit than one intended; which leads to...
  • Left-right mismatch: not only do the 2 shoes not match up 100%, but no one's two feet are really 100% symmetrical; doubling the degrees of freedom only makes finding good fit harder

 

Luckily, if the shoes are constructed all-around with quality leather, they have an amazing capacity for reshaping and molding to the feet that get inserted day in, day out. So overall trying to guess the degree of fit of an untried last+size combination is inconclusive at best. To expect decent fit from knowing just the length and width (and a couple of display photos) is to set oneself up for disappointment. RTW is all about finding acceptable compromises, and dealing with the vicissitudes in a way one can stomach.


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Excellent reasoning about purchasing any shoe really, especially online. Without trying on the pair you want, it's hard to make a call of what your best fit may be. Besides finding a mass of information to make a decision on what size and last to get, there's still a risk to take since everyone has different feet. Unfortunately, there are no known retailers, that I know of, that supply Meermin shoes besides Meermin themselves. So unless you're in Spain, there's going to be a risk in making a purchase online if you don't already have a good fitted pair. Ultimately, there is a risk, but for damn fine shoes it's worth it!

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Originally Posted by JRas View Post


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Excellent reasoning about purchasing any shoe really, especially online. Without trying on the pair you want, it's hard to make a call of what your best fit may be. Besides finding a mass of information to make a decision on what size and last to get, there's still a risk to take since everyone has different feet. Unfortunately, there are no known retailers, that I know of, that supply Meermin shoes besides Meermin themselves. So unless you're in Spain, there's going to be a risk in making a purchase online if you don't already have a good fitted pair. Ultimately, there is a risk, but for damn fine shoes it's worth it!

Risk? In buying Meermin rtw? What risk guys?

Order today, receive within 3 or 4 days. Put them on. There is a good fit? Keep them and abuse them.
No good fit? Return; ask for an exchange or money back. Done. The cost is sending back a shoe box.

Risk is buying a GMTO online from makers like Bonafè, GG, C&J, Vass or any other, dish out €600+, and 3 months later receive a pair of shoes in which you can't squeeze your foot in... and you can't return them.

This is risk.
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