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post #14701 of 15523
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Originally Posted by Zapasman View Post
 

Nice collection, congrats.  I would consider the NST of Linea Maestro;  I checked them at the shop and it seems a really good shoe.

 

In your experience, what would you say are the main differences between LC and LM (not taking into consideration the construcction )?.  Do they have the same quality of outsoles?.  The finishings?. Better shape of the last?. Thanks.

 

Thanks :) The norwegian stitching is really nice to watch.

 

Yes, to me the LM leather is much nicer and smoother than the classic line. LM outsole is also quicker to break in. leather outsole in the classic line is a b*tch to break in !

About the quality, I don't really know since as soon as I receive shoes, I go to the shoe guy to glue a gum sole, in order not to slip on the street :)

 

I have only 2 pairs of LM vs 10 LC so for what's worth, I was never disappointed by LM finishing and quality control. I have been disappointed a couple of times by the LC finishing.

About the last, I don't know...

 

my 2 cents :D

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Thanks for your answer.  One more aspect I have noticed is that the LM  mantains the same shape of the last whereas some models of the LC seem to have flaws with regards to this and they could look blobby sometimes.  I understand this issue has to do with the different lasting process and time involved during lasting plus QC. I am not sure if LM uses different outsole leather either (do not talking about its finishing and close channel). Apart from handwelting construcction, LC uses a rand to mount the heel  wich is clinched with iron nails and a wooden shank attached to the insole with a "screw"?, so they are a bit heavier .  From pics I do not know if LC uses a shank at all (do not own any).  

 

 

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post #14703 of 15523
New GMTO offer are now live with tassel loafers, chelsea, and balmoral boots. Sadly, no oxfords are offered. Looks like Meermin is trying very hard to push the grain calf and the fancy museum calf out. I really hope that they can provide some suede adelaide for the upcoming spring/summer.
post #14704 of 15523
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Originally Posted by Zapasman View Post
 

Thanks for your answer.  One more aspect I have noticed is that the LM  mantains the same shape of the last whereas some models of the LC seem to have flaws with regards to this and they could look blobby sometimes.  I understand this issue has to do with the different lasting process and time involved during lasting plus QC. I am not sure if LM uses different outsole leather either (do not talking about its finishing and close channel). Apart from handwelting construcction, LC uses a rand to mount the heel  wich is clinched with iron nails and a wooden shank attached to the insole with a "screw"?, so they are a bit heavier .  From pics I do not know if LC uses a shank at all (do not own any).  

 

 

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The Handwelted GY Looks odd to me.

Why the Need for cork?

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Most HW use cork to fill the hollow (rand/shank/tread/upper) like GYW.  What do you want to use?.

post #14706 of 15523
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Originally Posted by Zapasman View Post
 

Most HW use cork to fill the hollow (rand/shank/tread/upper) like GYW.  What do you want to use?.


From what I've learned in this Forum, a good HW uses a thick insole so that there is no hollow in the first place.

post #14707 of 15523

All shoes are made with cork sheet or cork paste.  Very few use felt (some bespoke like DW) to fill its subtle hollow. The hollow always exist wheather it is almost imperceptible or not. The outsole has nothing to do here.  

post #14708 of 15523

I do wish Meermin offered more LM shoes on their site. There seem to be very few options available online compared to what models they seem to offer in-store in Madrid.

post #14709 of 15523
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Originally Posted by Zapasman View Post
 

Thanks for your answer.  One more aspect I have noticed is that the LM  mantains the same shape of the last whereas some models of the LC seem to have flaws with regards to this and they could look blobby sometimes.  I understand this issue has to do with the different lasting process and time involved during lasting plus QC. I am not sure if LM uses different outsole leather either (do not talking about its finishing and close channel). Apart from handwelting construcction, LC uses a rand to mount the heel  wich is clinched with iron nails and a wooden shank attached to the insole with a "screw"?, so they are a bit heavier .  From pics I do not know if LC uses a shank at all (do not own any).  

 

 

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I have no urge to dissect my shoes LM and LC, yet ! hahaha

post #14710 of 15523
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Originally Posted by globobock View Post


From what I've learned in this Forum, a good HW uses a thick insole so that there is no hollow in the first place.

Makers still use cork to fill. Or asphalt felt. Or other fillers.
post #14711 of 15523

I'm looking for some opinions on Olfe vs. Hiro, I want to get some balmoral boots but I'm not sure if I should go with the dark brown calf GMTO offering on the olfe last or one of the RTW offerings on the hiro last, any thoughts would be appreciated!! Also do people tend to wear the same size for both Hiro and Olfe?

 

Thanks!

post #14712 of 15523
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Originally Posted by joman8390 View Post

I'm looking for some opinions on Olfe vs. Hiro, I want to get some balmoral boots but I'm not sure if I should go with the dark brown calf GMTO offering on the olfe last or one of the RTW offerings on the hiro last, any thoughts would be appreciated!! Also do people tend to wear the same size for both Hiro and Olfe?

Thanks!

Olfe is more elegant and sleeker than hiro. If you are looking for a more dressy look, go with olfe.
post #14713 of 15523
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Originally Posted by bm93 View Post
 

I do wish Meermin offered more LM shoes on their site. There seem to be very few options available online compared to what models they seem to offer in-store in Madrid.

I inquired about Meermin bringing back their Linea Maestro side lace (Burgundy and Black were offered before) as a MTO group order. Looks like they are considering it based on the response I received. I specified that the colors selection should be dark brown, burgundy and plum museum (I asked for plum museum with more enthusiasim than the other two). I also emphasized that it should be brought back as Linea Maestro and mentioned using the New Rey last so sorry to medium and wide width individuals! That was the last they used previously so I thought they would be more inclined to bring it back on the same last.

post #14714 of 15523
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

Makers still use cork to fill. Or asphalt felt. Or other fillers.
While it is obviously true that it is doable, it isn't something I would expect from a truly quality handwelted shoe.

What is the point of paying the price of a HW when I still get the disadvantage of GYW (cork)? I would rather invest in better GYWs.
post #14715 of 15523

The disadvantage of GW isn't the cork, it's the gluing of a canvas "feather" to which the welt is sewn, to the insole, as opposed to sewing it into a hand-cut groove.  Cork is a good and proven base for the footbed and can happily last as long as the leather sole before being replaced at the same time.

 

The only alternative to such fillers is to use a full leather midsole instead of a welt, as with the Blake Rapid construction - that although machine stitched, does away with the glued "feather".  I believe our own village elder Mr Frommer is even a fan of this as the best mass-manufacture construction method.

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