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The problem seems to ultimately be the teachers, not the tests. I don't have any data but I'm willing to say based on experience that most teachers wouldn't know their ass from a hole in the ground if their teacher's edition didn't give them the answer.

I don't have any data but I'm willing to say based on the rest of your posts that you have a gigantic chip on your shoulder.
post #32 of 38
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Escape McKinley High

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Escape McKinley High

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Is your friend Kevin Arnold?
post #34 of 38
shitttt didn't realize that was a reference to the wonder years LOL, i thought you were a teacher at a hs in ny facepalm.gif
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I think like four tv shows use McKinley High.
post #36 of 38
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I don't have any data but I'm willing to say based on the rest of your posts that you have a gigantic chip on your shoulder.

You're absolutely right.

I was unfortunately a product of the American school system that coddles ineffective and ignorant teachers and excludes the professionals and academics that have a real understanding of the subject matter. The sad fact is that a person like Salman Khan of khanacademy.org would be barred from the mathematics classroom despite his expertise and practical application of the concepts.

I was also unfortunately forced to deal with teachers in a professional context wherein they clearly had next to no actual understanding of their subject yet would pass on their 'knowledge' (usually convoluted and aimless) to students. And anyone who strays from the sequence of chapter after chapter or dares say the book is wrong is criticized and ridiculed. It's a festering system that needs deep reforms.
post #37 of 38
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You're absolutely right.
I was unfortunately a product of the American school system that coddles ineffective and ignorant teachers and excludes the professionals and academics that have a real understanding of the subject matter. The sad fact is that a person like Salman Khan of khanacademy.org would be barred from the mathematics classroom despite his expertise and practical application of the concepts.
I was also unfortunately forced to deal with teachers in a professional context wherein they clearly had next to no actual understanding of their subject yet would pass on their 'knowledge' (usually convoluted and aimless) to students. And anyone who strays from the sequence of chapter after chapter or dares say the book is wrong is criticized and ridiculed. It's a festering system that needs deep reforms.

At my school there was perhaps only one or two math teachers who were able to keep up with the brightest kids in class. Way too often we were just jumping ahead and solving the problems before they did/pointing out the flaw in their reasoning.
post #38 of 38
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You're absolutely right.
I was unfortunately a product of the American school system that coddles ineffective and ignorant teachers and excludes the professionals and academics that have a real understanding of the subject matter. The sad fact is that a person like Salman Khan of khanacademy.org would be barred from the mathematics classroom despite his expertise and practical application of the concepts.
I was also unfortunately forced to deal with teachers in a professional context wherein they clearly had next to no actual understanding of their subject yet would pass on their 'knowledge' (usually convoluted and aimless) to students. And anyone who strays from the sequence of chapter after chapter or dares say the book is wrong is criticized and ridiculed. It's a festering system that needs deep reforms.

There is a study that girls who have female kindergarden teachers who are bad at math have less interest in and are more anxious about math than they were going in.
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