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post #4171 of 4217
This is a pretty asinine question and I'm sure you get this a lot, but aside from frogmouth pocketing, do you offer any 'jetted' side pockets for suit pants to avoid any problems of 'pocket ears'?
Edited by tighty88 - 11/27/12 at 7:27pm
post #4172 of 4217
You can opt for slanted pockets.
post #4173 of 4217
please excuse my immature photoshop skills.

asian wedding x TAT. me on the right.

post #4174 of 4217

Those suit pants do not fit well.
 

post #4175 of 4217

Hi everyone,

 

I just wanted to post about my experience with TAT. I met with Jason in August at his local tailor in San Gabriel.


I received my suit in the mail about a month later. I got my suit pressed and ready to wear. After trying it on, something seemed off to me for the fit, but I really didn't know if that was normal because it was my first suit and I didn't know what to look for. Since then I really never had a need for the suit so I just let it hang in the closet.

 

Come October, I needed to get it altered and ready for a presentation in November. I took it to a local tailor who checked it out and immediately noticed that the right of the suit under the arm was not fit proper. He said that since my right shoulder was lower than my left, it made a lot of creases under the right arm. Also he said the collar was loose and not fit proper. He quoted for for $140 for the alterations of the suit, but I got him to agree on $120. Even then he said that the suit would improve but not be able to be fully fixed because of the fabric of the jacket already being cut and limiting the amount that could be altered.

I emailed Jason about the issue that the tailor brought up, and his response was not as empathetic as I was expecting. After a few emails he agreed to meet to see the suit. So I took it to him and with his tailor we looked at it. His tailor agreed that the armhole could not be fixed, it was too high and needed to be lower. Jason agreed to make me a new suit jacket which I'd get in a month. I was surprised that he did not take any measurements on my body wearing the old suit. I even asked if he needed to take measurements or make notes but he said no he didn't need to. The one thing that stood out to me was the fact that he said it was "my body" that made the suit not fit, as if it was my problem! As if the suit was not measured on my body? The reason I chose MTM was because I wanted something custom to my fit, if wanted something that didn't fit I wouldn't choose MTM. Didn't get a good vibe about that.

 

I just got the new jacket last week and its a little better, but still not right. The jacket was just widened under the armholes instead of addressing the issue of uneven shoulders. There are still creases on the right armhole. To fix it my tailor needed to take the right arm off and pull up the fabric and drop the armhole. Also he'd need to alter the left arm because it would be thrown off by the right being changed. Total costs for alterations: $160!

 

I really wanted to love the suit I got from TAT but unfortunately it didn't work out as well as I was expecting. I understand that MTM is not a perfect process, but after showing Jason the first suit with the problem, I was expecting to get a second jacket that fit proper. The total cost for the suit with alterations turned out to be $525+$160 = $685. For just a about $100 more I could have gotten a custom suit from my local tailor who has been in business for over 20 years, which would include multiple fittings and all alterations included.

 

I'm not saying TAT is not good, its a good service if you fit into most RTW suits in the store and are looking for something with more features or colors. If you have some interesting or unique physical attributes then you might reconsider. I was expecting my second meeting to go better and be able to resolve the problems of the first jacket but that was not the case. I can't imagine what people who cannot meet locally would do about a situation like that. I have an Alfani Red Slim suit off the rack that was altered to fit better than my TAT suit, at less than half the price (sale price, $290 with alterations). Obviously the Alfani is not as stylish as the TAT suit, but it works really well for the price. I really wish the TAT suit fit proper because I love the styling and color options, just not the need to put $160 in for alterations on a second attempt jacket. I really wanted a VBC 130 suit, but I think I'll hold out on that.

 

Attached are pictures of the suits (first and second jackets, marked as 1 and 2, respectively). Includes pictures of problem arm taken off by my tailor to get the right fitting on it.

 

 

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Edited by goldenboy16 - 12/11/12 at 2:58pm
post #4176 of 4217
post #4177 of 4217

Hi everyone,

 

Long time lurker and finally a member of SF. Made an appointment to meet up with the guys of TaT about getting a new suit for interviews and socials since my first suit was from Men's Wearhouse (16 years old, parents bought it, and never again) and just recently a J.Crew Ludlow suit (couple months back, recently just turned 24 btw). Unfortunately both were in black (sorry guys), so looking to get more diversity by covering the basics with a grey suit. 

 

Wondering about these ideas:

-medium grey

-house cut

-notch lapel

-ticket pocket

-minimal/no trouser break

 

If all is well with my grey suit from TaT, I think I'd want to continue my business with them and get something a little bit more fancier like the petrol blue or navy sharkskin with peaked lapels. 

post #4178 of 4217
Questions about measuring myself.

It's rare to get perfect measurements on your first suit, but is it better to be off by being larger or smaller than the actual measurement?

and what's a good way to measure your chest? Natural inhaling and exhaling makes it tricky.
post #4179 of 4217

I think people generally overestimate, rather than underestimate, their shoulder measurements. Either that or Jason's algorithm is made to be a little wide for first-timers.

post #4180 of 4217
Quote:
Originally Posted by goldenboy16 View Post

Hi everyone,


I just wanted to post about my experience with TAT. I met with Jason in August at his local tailor in San Gabriel.



I received my suit in the mail about a month later. I got my suit pressed and ready to wear. After trying it on, something seemed off to me for the fit, but I really didn't know if that was normal because it was my first suit and I didn't know what to look for. 
Since then I really never had a need for the suit so I just let it hang in the closet.


Come October, I needed to get it altered and ready for a presentation in November. I took it to a local tailor who checked it out and immediately noticed that the right of the suit under the arm was not fit proper. He said that since my right shoulder was lower than my left, it made a lot of creases under the right arm. Also he said the collar was loose and not fit proper. He quoted for for $140 for the alterations of the suit, but I got him to agree on $120. Even then he said that the suit would improve but not be able to be fully fixed because of the fabric of the jacket already being cut and limiting the amount that could be altered.




I emailed Jason about the issue that the tailor brought up, and his response was not as empathetic as I was expecting. After a few emails he agreed to meet to see the suit. So I took it to him and with his tailor we looked at it. His tailor agreed that the armhole could not be fixed, it was too high and needed to be lower.
 Jason agreed to make me a new suit jacket which I'd get in a month. I was surprised that he did not take any measurements on my body wearing the old suit. I even asked if he needed to take measurements or make notes but he said no he didn't need to. The one thing that stood out to me was the fact that he said it was "my body" that made the suit not fit, as if it was my problem! As if the suit was not measured on my body? The reason I chose MTM was because I wanted something custom to my fit, if wanted something that didn't fit I wouldn't choose MTM. Didn't get a good vibe about that.

I just got the new jacket last week and its a little better, but still not right. The jacket was just widened under the armholes instead of addressing the issue of uneven shoulders. There are still creases on the right armhole. To fix it my tailor needed to take the right arm off and pull up the fabric and drop the armhole. Also he'd need to alter the left arm because it would be thrown off by the right being changed. Total costs for alterations: $160!

I really wanted to love the suit I got from TAT but unfortunately it didn't work out as well as I was expecting. I understand that MTM is not a perfect process, but after showing Jason the first suit with the problem, I was expecting to get a second jacket that fit proper. The total cost for the suit with alterations turned out to be $525+$160 = $685. For just a about $100 more I could have gotten a custom suit from my local tailor who has been in business for over 20 years, which would include multiple fittings and all alterations included.

I'm not saying TAT is not good, its a good service if you fit into most RTW suits in the store and are looking for something with more features or colors. If you have some interesting or unique physical attributes then you might reconsider. I was expecting my second meeting to go better and be able to resolve the problems of the first jacket but that was not the case. I can't imagine what people who cannot meet locally would do about a situation like that. I have an Alfani Red Slim suit off the rack that was altered to fit better than my TAT suit, at less than half the price (sale price, $290 with alterations). Obviously the Alfani is not as stylish as the TAT suit, but it works really well for the price. I really wish the TAT suit fit proper because I love the styling and color options, just not the need to put $160 in for alterations on a second attempt jacket. I really wanted a VBC 130 suit, but I think I'll hold out on that.

Attached are pictures of the suits (first and second jackets, marked as 1 and 2, respectively). Includes pictures of problem arm taken off by my tailor to get the right fitting on it.


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WOW

thanks for sharing
post #4181 of 4217
Get Smart, what is your opinion on the higher button rise look for two button suits as opposed to three-button and are you inclined to offer the option?foo.gif
post #4182 of 4217
^FYI Jason doesn't regularly check the thread. You are better off emailing him.
post #4183 of 4217
What's the best way I can go about in fixing this problem I'm having? Not sure if its just the way my shoulders are or if its easily fixable
post #4184 of 4217
Are your shoulders padded? If not, light shoulder padding will probably do the trick. If you send it back to Jason, he'll do it for a small fee.
post #4185 of 4217

Hi, 

I'm new here and fascinated with the depth and breadth of information - good stuff!  I'm about to spring for a Thick as Thieves suit based on the info here and the fact that he about nails the style I've been seeking.  My questions have mostly been answered by Jason but I'm hoping for more info on specific fabrics, as he did not seem in the mood to go into details.  Specifically, I am considering the mohair blend for my suit but since it's listed as an 8oz fabric, that seems very lightweight to me, which is a concern.  Those who have tried that fabric or similar weight fabric from TaT, is it substantial enough that it drapes well?  Does it carry into the cooler seasons well enough?  My preference is for a heavier fabric, but if this one does the job, then no need to be particular about weights.

 

Thank you,

Harth

Portland, OR

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