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post #4021 of 4213
You have to realize, most of the fabrics Jason carries are very "out-there". He has a few traditional fabrics, but the SS are high in sheen, the Kid Mohair has a medium sheen, and he has corduroys... There's a nice selection, but if you want conservative fabrics its very small.
post #4022 of 4213
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Originally Posted by dieselman89 View Post

You have to realize, most of the fabrics Jason carries are very "out-there". He has a few traditional fabrics, but the SS are high in sheen, the Kid Mohair has a medium sheen, and he has corduroys... There's a nice selection, but if you want conservative fabrics its very small.
How many conservative suits does one need? 3 at most? 1 in navy, and 2 in different shades of gray? Gets boring after a while.

Even some of the MCers have eccentric suits.
post #4023 of 4213
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How many conservative suits does one need? 3 at most? 1 in navy, and 2 in different shades of gray? Gets boring after a while.
Even some of the MCers have eccentric suits.

When you have two colours to work with, you get creative with tones, texture and other details. I am already the odd man out by not competing over who has the most ironic critter tie at work.
post #4024 of 4213
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Originally Posted by wj4 View Post

How many conservative suits does one need? 3 at most? 1 in navy, and 2 in different shades of gray? Gets boring after a while.
Even some of the MCers have eccentric suits.

Fair enough, but I am just letting those know that most of TaT's fabrics are "out there" in your face. I like them just sharing.
post #4025 of 4213
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Fair enough, but I am just letting those know that most of TaT's fabrics are "out there" in your face. I like them just sharing.

I've seen most of the swatches in person on multiple occasions. While I agree with you that unique fabrics like the sharkskin series are shiny, others are quite common. His tweeds and corduroys for example...nothing "out there" about those. They're essentially staple items in an MC wardrobe, tweed and cord are great fabrics for the cold weather. You can see them in the WAYWT thread routinely. I lurk in MC and some of the bespoke fabrics are even livelier than what Jason offers. I wouldn't say most of his fabrics are out there...he has a lot of the ordinary gray, navy, and brown.

I've never been unlucky enough to work at such a "wardrobe sensitive" work ambiance, for lack of better words, but I can honestly say a good number of his fabrics are work friendly.
post #4026 of 4213
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If it's your first suit, go with a darker navy or some sort of grey.
My first suit from Jason was a gray Prince of Wale. I wore it to interviews. When I got a new job that has a relaxed dress code...I obtained more suits.

Yeah, I have a medium PoW with a blue windowpane. I didn't order it looking for a conservative fabric, but it turned out to be totally acceptable in a fairly conservative work environment. It's different from the typical charcoal or navy, but looks sharp without screaming "THIS GUY READS MENSWEAR BLOGS."
post #4027 of 4213
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Yeah, I have a medium PoW with a blue windowpane. I didn't order it looking for a conservative fabric, but it turned out to be totally acceptable in a fairly conservative work environment. It's different from the typical charcoal or navy, but looks sharp without screaming "THIS GUY READS MENSWEAR BLOGS."
The medium PoW was my first suit as well. I wore this to well over 7 interviews and it served its duty.

Honestly, unless you're going to work for a fashion powerhouse or an extremely conservative firm, as long as you show up in a suit and not wearing sneakers, you would be fine. Some of the threads in MC are ridiculous, ie "is it OK to wear double monks to a job interview"...no one is going to care.

For my first professional job that pertained to my BS, I didn't even wear a suit to the interview. I wore a dress shirt with a tie, cardigan, and dark brown Clarks Desert Boots.

For those who's looking for a dark gray suit and don't want to go with black, I highly suggest charcoal #9. It is really dark and matte, as close to being black without being actual black. The beige/white stripe lining is a nice touch too.
post #4028 of 4213
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Originally Posted by wj4 View Post

The medium PoW was my first suit as well. I wore this to well over 7 interviews and it served its duty.
Honestly, unless you're going to work for a fashion powerhouse or an extremely conservative firm, as long as you show up in a suit and not wearing sneakers, you would be fine. Some of the threads in MC are ridiculous, ie "is it OK to wear double monks to a job interview"...no one is going to care.
For my first professional job that pertained to my BS, I didn't even wear a suit to the interview. I wore a dress shirt with a tie, cardigan, and dark brown Clarks Desert Boots.
For those who's looking for a dark gray suit and don't want to go with black, I highly suggest charcoal #9. It is really dark and matte, as close to being black without being actual black. The beige/white stripe lining is a nice touch too.

Agree and disagree with points. Depending on where you are (i.e. America, China...) your attire is very important for a job interview. Generally in America the rule of thumb is navy/charcoal/black for your first interview with a white/blue shirt and basic tie. You want to dress to impress, obviously you can go in a cardigan but it depends what your interviewing for.
post #4029 of 4213
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Agree and disagree with points. Depending on where you are (i.e. America, China...) your attire is very important for a job interview. Generally in America the rule of thumb is navy/charcoal/black for your first interview with a white/blue shirt and basic tie. You want to dress to impress, obviously you can go in a cardigan but it depends what your interviewing for.

There is no doubt a (well fitting) suit is a staple item in any man's wardrobe, despite of the geographical location.

However, I think you've been lurking in MC too long with the "rule of thumb" thing. Some of the stuff 'debated' in there are so laughable, ie shoudl I wear a pocket square at my interview." Navy and charcoal are easy colors to work with, I agree. Black..not so much unless you're a waiter, but that's a story for another time.

Yes, you want to dress to impress....but that only gets you so far. have you been in charge of the hiring process for your firm/department before? At my former job, I hired a person that was the worst dressed. He had a polo shirt with chinos, the others had suits. Why did I hire him? He was more knowledgeable than the others.

When I interviewed at JPL/NASA, the first thing I was told was to take off my blazer because I was making them look bad. The team had on polos and t shirts with jokes that science geeks would only get.

I wore a cardigan to my first gig in the field because I was coming out of college. Brands like Alden, Tricker's, etc. were a foreign concept to me as I didn't have $500 to shell out for a pair of shoes. I got the job because I nailed the interview, not because of what I wore.

It's obvious that we like to dress. That's why we're on the forum. To the average man, AE shoes are the cream of the crop. On here, it's the entry level. You can be the worst dressed person on this board, but will probably be among the best dressed in the real world. The point I want to make is that there is "no general rule of thumb" for the general public. And yes, while you want to look your best, it will not necessary get you the gig.

Even at my current job, the top dogs make fun of me light heartedly. "There's Mr. GQ, how much are we paying you...$80k or $800k?". Obviously I wear suits because I want to, not because I have to. I can go to work in sweats and running shoes and be OK.

Sorry for the rant, but I want to state my 2 cents on this matter. Cheers. smile.gif
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The team had on polos and t shirts with jokes that science geeks would only get.

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Edited by iroh - 2/7/12 at 1:26pm
post #4032 of 4213
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Originally Posted by wj4 View Post

There is no doubt a (well fitting) suit is a staple item in any man's wardrobe, despite of the geographical location.
However, I think you've been lurking in MC too long with the "rule of thumb" thing. Some of the stuff 'debated' in there are so laughable, ie shoudl I wear a pocket square at my interview." Navy and charcoal are easy colors to work with, I agree. Black..not so much unless you're a waiter, but that's a story for another time.
Yes, you want to dress to impress....but that only gets you so far. have you been in charge of the hiring process for your firm/department before? At my former job, I hired a person that was the worst dressed. He had a polo shirt with chinos, the others had suits. Why did I hire him? He was more knowledgeable than the others.
When I interviewed at JPL/NASA, the first thing I was told was to take off my blazer because I was making them look bad. The team had on polos and t shirts with jokes that science geeks would only get.
I wore a cardigan to my first gig in the field because I was coming out of college. Brands like Alden, Tricker's, etc. were a foreign concept to me as I didn't have $500 to shell out for a pair of shoes. I got the job because I nailed the interview, not because of what I wore.
It's obvious that we like to dress. That's why we're on the forum. To the average man, AE shoes are the cream of the crop. On here, it's the entry level. You can be the worst dressed person on this board, but will probably be among the best dressed in the real world. The point I want to make is that there is "no general rule of thumb" for the general public. And yes, while you want to look your best, it will not necessary get you the gig.
Even at my current job, the top dogs make fun of me light heartedly. "There's Mr. GQ, how much are we paying you...$80k or $800k?". Obviously I wear suits because I want to, not because I have to. I can go to work in sweats and running shoes and be OK.
Sorry for the rant, but I want to state my 2 cents on this matter. Cheers. smile.gif

I actually love this rant! +1. I think yoru so right, its so funny how many poorly dressed people there are that wear high-end suits and think just because the suits expensive that they will look good. There's a lot of people who dont understand fit of suits and such. Great post. Especially like you said, might be the worst dressed on here, but best dressed in workplace.
post #4033 of 4213
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Originally Posted by dieselman89 View Post

I actually love this rant! +1. I think yoru so right, its so funny how many poorly dressed people there are that wear high-end suits and think just because the suits expensive that they will look good. There's a lot of people who dont understand fit of suits and such. Great post. Especially like you said, might be the worst dressed on here, but best dressed in workplace.

Half of why so many people on MC don't look good in their suits may be because of their fitness level, or lack of it. For all the talk of bespoke that goes on what would most improve a man's fit in a suit is to be slim and athletic. No amount of money is going to cover a beer gut, unless you're a billionaire.

wj4, you seem to be working in the scientific/engineering field, which explains the freedom you have regarding what you can wear at work. It's one of the more meritocratic industries where what you know is more important than who you know and the difference between the best and worst candidate's skill sets are more tangible and real. Unfortunately, the more you have to represent your firm to clients, the more the intangibles count (not appearing overpaid).
post #4034 of 4213

 

 

Hi everyone, I’m new the forum but after reading through this monster thread half a dozen times I decided to try TaT. Since I haven’t seen anyone post fit pictures in a while, I thought I’d take the opportunity to show mine and share my experience.

 

As everyone has said before, Jason is very easy to work with, helpful, etc etc.

 

On to the suit:

 

Since my MTM experience had been limited to shirts at this point, I spent quite a bit of time taking measurements and watching the ‘how to’ videos Jason put up. I wanted to make sure that my measurements were as accurate as possible, so I had four people (including myself) take 2 sets of measurements each over the course of several days. I then took the average and standard deviation of these values, and remeasured as needed until the standard deviation was less than a quarter inch or so for each (yes, I’m an engineer; this is just how we do things). My point is that when I sent off my measurements I felt quite confident that they were accurate values. I’m also 5’9” and slim (145-150), so I felt that my body type would work well with the TaT aesthetic.

As for details, I ordered the PoW #52 with 2.5” lapels, tapered “house” trousers, horizontal pockets. I requested that the suit length be 28.5” from the bottom of the collar, which would result in the jacket ending around my top thumb knuckle.

 

Anyway, here are some pictures after a good press:

 

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A few observations on the fit:

The sleeves and trousers both need to be brought up a touch; no big deal there. Overall, the fit is slimmer than what I would find OTR, but could probably be brought in a bit more in some places. The shoulders might be a touch too big (or maybe this is just my shoulder fit paranoia kicking in).

 

Some quibbles I have:

The PoW 52 is more tan than I expected, to the point that I briefly wondered if I was actually sent a Taupe PoW suit. Also, the material is quite thin and feels like a summer weight wool. In fact, due to the lightness of the fabric and the lack of structure in the jacket, the thing does not seem to drape well, giving it a somewhat rumpled appearance. I also noticed that the jacket lining was quite noisy, giving off a “ski pants” noise when I move, as noted by another user somewhere previously. Speaking of lining, the lining on the pants and jacket don’t match; I’m not sure if this was intentional or not.

 

Some positives: The fit is nice overall, although it doesn’t look like much in these stoic pictures. As far as I can tell, the construction quality seems good. The quality of the fabric seems high as well. Details like horn buttons and pattern matching are appreciated.

 

Overall, I think the suit is a valiant first soiree into MTM and TaT, but leaves plenty of room for improvement. I am in need of another suit shortly and I am debating whether it would be better to refine these measurements or look somewhere else. Comments and critiques are very welcome; I’d love to hear what others think about the fit and/or the details I’ve chosen.

 

post #4035 of 4213
Nice pics, brillopad! I have the same quibble about the fabric being so light.
By the way, does anyone have pics of suits in the flannel fabric or the Prince of Wales fabric? Specifically in medium grey and charcoal.
Edited by sk317 - 2/13/12 at 8:06am
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