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post #3421 of 4103
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Originally Posted by Epaulet View Post

Hey guys!

Quick check in from our side:

1) My apologies for the foot-dragging on the hatch grain makeups, we're going to get them up in the next few days - and I'll extend the time frame on that Jumper boot as well. Carmina should get the leather shortly, so the timeline is no problem. There's nothing to cut yet, so we're not losing ground. We're still well in the window for a prime Fall delivery.
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2) In regards to the Hatch Grain leather - at least the variety produced by Horween - it is only actually made in one color. That medium brown which we're showing on our site. What you're seeing on the AA Crack website are photoshopped mockups of that Hatch Grain skin made in different colors. Since this is in their "bespoke shoes" section, then it's likely that AA Crack has someone to hand-dye the skins. If you're doing a one-off MTO which is already pricey, then it probably doesn't matter, but I'm not sure if it's realistic for us to do this. The cost differential of buying hand-dyed hatch grain from the UK versus direct from Horween is probably very significant. But.....

3) I'm going to the Pitti show in two weeks and meeting with Carmina there. Interesting leathers are the number one priority for me - especially grained varieties like this. I'll return with any and all swatches that I can show to you guys. I think that this is really exciting!

4) Furthermore in the Hatch Grain world - I've been in touch with Horween and my belt guys. If all goes according to plan, I'll be able to offer matching belts for all of the hatch grain styles that we make. Should be a very good price on the belts too, as we'll make them in the States. We'll stock the belts from 32-38, but we can basically make any size in them.

5) I'm just waiting on final confirmation that Carmina can make a version of the WWII John Lobb style, and then I'm going to go ape with Photoshop mockups and ideas for it!

For those of you who own shoes made with the hatch grain leather, how does it polish up? Does polish build up in the striations and dull the shine?
post #3422 of 4103
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Originally Posted by gaseousclay View Post


i'll have to see where this goes. I only hesitate because as often happens with MTO suggestions they tend to get out of control (ie. people wanting shell over calf, unique colors, specific lasts, etc). I'd like to get more suggestions from others here, such as nailing down the color (I like dark oak), last, and the broguing on the shoe. would others want a perfect imitation of the Vass U-Cap?

Carmina version of this shoe:

 

Dark Oak calf (going to have mine burnished)

Simpson Last

Single leather sole

 

Takers:

MRMstl

Dagon

gaseousclay (maybe?)

post #3423 of 4103

That is a really nice shoe - but does Carmina even offer a U-cap style? I don't recall seeing one before, but others here are more familiar with than me with the options from Carmina. As far I am aware for a "standard MTO" the shoe has to be put together from existing patterns. I know that Mike at Epaulet has worked up a couple of new new styles - but I think these were for regular stock orders (and so more than just the minimum MTO order size).

 

I certainly hope for your sake that I am wrong, as it would be great to see how a U-capCarmina turns out, though I don't think that I would be down for this myself at the moment (too many other good things on the horizon).

post #3424 of 4103
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Originally Posted by pekingman View Post

That is a really nice shoe - but does Carmina even offer a U-cap style? I don't recall seeing one before, but others here are more familiar with than me with the options from Carmina. As far I am aware for a "standard MTO" the shoe has to be put together from existing patterns. I know that Mike at Epaulet has worked up a couple of new new styles - but I think these were for regular stock orders (and so more than just the minimum MTO order size).

 

I certainly hope for your sake that I am wrong, as it would be great to see how a U-capCarmina turns out, though I don't think that I would be down for this myself at the moment (too many other good things on the horizon).

 

Ahhh, good point.  I did not consider this.  Can anyone from Epaulet confirm or deny the possibility of making a Carmina u-cap?

post #3425 of 4103
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Originally Posted by MRMstl View Post

 

Ahhh, good point.  I did not consider this.  Can anyone from Epaulet confirm or deny the possibility of making a Carmina u-cap?

That was my suspicion. I felt that if they had one, I would have had drooled over it by now. If you go to carminashoemaker.com, there is no shoe in that style on any last. Pretty sure that means it's impossible.

 

But.. nice shoes! :-D

post #3426 of 4103
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Originally Posted by MRMstl View Post


I'm in.  That's disgustingly gorgeous. 

We're already at 3 (4 if gaseousclay gets on board).  Only need 2-3 more.  Anyone else? 

I'd be in for that.
post #3427 of 4103
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Originally Posted by MRMstl View Post

Ahhh, good point.  I did not consider this.  Can anyone from Epaulet confirm or deny the possibility of making a Carmina u-cap?

Shoot Betty an e-mail? Can't hurt.
post #3428 of 4103
Hey guys!

Hope that all is well. Me and the crew are here at the Pitti Uomo show, and we had a great meeting with Carmina yesterday. Lots of pictures! My internet access here is a little spotty, so I have to keep this brief, but here's what we came away with:

1. JL WWII Repro boot is a Go! They can make the shape and we can start submitting orders against it in the next two weeks.
2. Carmina can indeed make a U-Cap shoe. I've got photos - it looks incredible in person.
3. I've got a few chukka boot photos for the Hatch Grain makeup. The Hatch Grain should arrive in the next month, so we can finalize all of the styles and still be on time for an early Fall delivery
4. I've blocked out plenty of inventory in Cognac and Burgundy shell cordovan for all of these makeup ideas

I'm back in the States next Monday and I can post up all the pics then. I'll try to do it earlier if I can get a quicker connection at our next hotel.

- Mike
post #3429 of 4103
Mike-

Were you able to get a look at their version if the Tanker, style 80274? If so would love to see some pics. Cannot wait to see the JL WWII mockups!
post #3430 of 4103

Any news on the lizard makeup?

 

Also would be interested in a vass style u cap like the one MRMstl posted.

post #3431 of 4103
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Originally Posted by spicycho View Post

Any news on the lizard makeup?

Also would be interested in a vass style u cap like the one MRMstl posted.

Ask and ye shall receive......





It's actually a fairly new shape and they're finalizing the pattern work on it. We can work on MTO concepts for this ASAP and still be safe for a late Sept/early Oct delivery.

I've got more photos to show, but the other thing that I really liked was a hand-tinted scotchgrain...



This is amazing. It's a first quality calfskin from Annonay in France that's sent to Carmina in a neutral tan color. They then hand burnish and tint it into a beautiful rich brandy tone. It knocked us out in person. Price is about the same as regular calf, and it's really something special.

And for the Carmina 3-eye Hatchgrain chukka, how do you guys like this shape (on the Rain last)

post #3432 of 4103
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Originally Posted by Epaulet View Post


I've got more photos to show, but the other thing that I really liked was a hand-tinted scotchgrain...



This is amazing. It's a first quality calfskin from Annonay in France that's sent to Carmina in a neutral tan color. They then hand burnish and tint it into a beautiful rich brandy tone. It knocked us out in person. Price is about the same as regular calf, and it's really something special.

Sign me up for the JL WWII boot in this.
post #3433 of 4103
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post


Sign me up for the JL WWII boot in this.


me too...that is absolutely amazing!

post #3434 of 4103

WWII boot has to be shell! Cognac or Saddle preferably 

post #3435 of 4103
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Originally Posted by FrankCowperwood View Post

Sign me up for the JL WWII boot in this.

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Originally Posted by stmaier View Post


me too...that is absolutely amazing!

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Originally Posted by rydenfan View Post

WWII boot has to be shell! Cognac or Saddle preferably 

Oh definitely. The JL WWII boot is going to be a custom pattern for us - like the Greeley - so we'll work up a few different concepts for it. Cognac is definitely one of them - I blocked out plenty of leather for it. It would be incredible in this hand-tinted scotchgrain, as you'd really see the burnishing effect throughout the boot - the design is so clean on it. We can do it in something toned down as well - like dark brown CXL or black "natur calf" (a tougher calf with a top finish that's a bit glossy and water resistant - we use this for the caramel Alt Wien).
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