Epaulet x Carmina MTO - Page 23

Originally Posted by Cuttingboard 

Simpson & Rain are the last options - Check post 316 above for last voting form.
Update - So the strong consensus on the austerity brogues seems to be for snuff suede with antique edgetrim. The only outstanding decision to be made is regarding the last -- either Simpson or Rain in a medium fitting. If you are seriously interested in these shoes, please vote in the following form, indicating your styleforum id and preference as to last, we can get this squared away and ordered when Mike is at Pitti. Voting deadline is Friday, Jan. 6th at noon.

Originally Posted by SeventyFive 

I was asking for lasts under consideration for the balmoral boot.

Originally Posted by Epaulet 

Bal Boot Feedback
Hey guys,
In terms of the shell bal boot, I've got a few points:
.................3. Just to be totally clear on colors - there's only two shades of brown that are available:
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We can't order Ravello, Cigar, or Whiskey. And it's not possible to order a Chestnut that looks more like Cigar. As with Alden, these shell colors have some variation and some come in darker than others, more saturated than others, etc.
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Originally Posted by Epaulet 

The Armoury is definitely more familiar than I am with Carmina, but I'd take the width distinctions with a grain of salt. From what I've seen, their standard fits are all a variation of what we know as medium fitting.
For our first round of makeups, we used the Inca, Rain, and Forest last. I wouldn't say that the Inca is like an "wide" fit to the Forest's "medium" fit. And all of them are slimmer than either the Alden Barrie or Tru-Balance last in their normal "D" medium sizing. They're slimmer than the Wolverine 1000 Mile last too - which is an excellent fitting boot and worked for most of our customers.
We've sold quite a few Rain-lasted Chelsea boots, and I haven't had anyone comment that the boot felt roomy or wide. Quite the opposite - it's a very elegant and slim, but not tight or narrow, last. It's a great fit on me, and I end up sliding around a bit in the Barrie, even with sizing down a half.
I believe that using either the Rain or the Simpson will result in a fit with a shade or two of difference. Kind of like the Alden Aberdeen vs. the Alden Leydon last. I'd be inclined to look at their "E" vs "EE" comparisons as more of a relation on which lasts are slimmer, rather than a direct correspondence to a traditional medium or wide fit.
But to date I've only corresponded with Carmina via emails and phone calls. I'll meet with them in person next Wednesday, and I plan on really hashing out the sizing then.

Originally Posted by PipersSon 

Thanks for the answer,
So - apologies if this has been discussed - the Navy color for the shell boot is out of the equation?

Originally Posted by Renton 

Going by that, it sounds like I'm out of the running for the austerity brogue. I take a EE in the barrie so there's no way a medium in a last slimmer than a D width barrie will work on my feet. Is there any chance the Robert last can be made in wider widths?

Originally Posted by Epaulet 

Haha, they cost me way more than that.
But I'll eat most of the price, as you guys deserve it for coming up with the shoe concept! And we can definitely include them at no charge with the pricer shell boots.

Originally Posted by Epaulet 

Oh, no sorry - Navy is definitely available. As is Burgundy (Color 8), Black, Loden, and Deep Red. I believe that Navy was being discussed for a Jodphur boot.
A Navy makeup, however, wouldn't come until the late Summer/early Fall as Carmina doesn't have any stock on that leather at the moment. They'd have to get it from Horween....

Originally Posted by Epaulet 

Bal Boot Feedback
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3. Just to be totally clear on colors - there's only two shades of brown that are available:
Saddle


Chestnut

We can't order Ravello, Cigar, or Whiskey. And it's not possible to order a Chestnut that looks more like Cigar. As with Alden, these shell colors have some variation and some come in darker than others, more saturated than others, etc.
All things being equal, I'd recommend Chestnut. It's a BEAUTIFUL color, and our Chestnut shortwing was the best seller of the Carmina collection. It's seasonless and easy to match. As it's darker, any imperfections in the leather (scratches, color variations) are going to be much less apparent.

Originally Posted by CHRK33 

Voting is super close for the Last preference, with the Simpson last barely in the lead...

Originally Posted by Artking3 

If the Simpson last does end up winning, I hope it can fit my foot. Suede does have more give so that gives me hope. Is the Simpson that much narrower than the Inca? I have the monk strap in Inca and the width is just right.