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post #3196 of 4101
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Originally Posted by PartagasIV View Post

Adding to loden makeup:

diglett
hanoi boy
mr chorizo
kid america 17
frank copwerwood
steven T
mister jester
fiesta platypus
partagasiv

 

Please add me to the list.. :)

post #3197 of 4101

I'll buy something when a basic color MTO is offered in a last other than forest.  I'd kill for some simpson or robert...

post #3198 of 4101
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Originally Posted by mrjester View Post

I already messaged Partagas but figured I'd ask here as well.

 

What does everyone think of a 'dark' loden green? Basically they look damn near black indoors but you can notice the green outdoors. I've seen it on some G&G racing Green shoes and that's kind of what I want for a shoe right now.

 

I don't want to mess with a list that's already so strong and am not even sure if Carmina can do it but.. maybe?

 

ETA: Here's a goal I'm going for.

 

http://styleforum-testing.s3.amazonaws.com/7/70/70f8475f_vbattach66102.jpg

For whatever reason, I already had that color in mind, even though the example of Loden shell that I found was much brighter:

 

http://obviousamerica.com/2011/05/22/yuketen-loden-shell-cordovan-penny-loafer/#more-654

 

That darker color looks REALLY good--the indoor subtlety/outdoor color would probably feel a lot like Ruby shell. And I just think that darker green looks more tough. Count me in.

 

Now I'm worried that this will turn into another cognac shell debacle, with people on the same MTO hoping for different shades of shell.

post #3199 of 4101
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Originally Posted by diglett View Post

For whatever reason, I already had that color in mind, even though the example of Loden shell that I found was much brighter:

 

http://obviousamerica.com/2011/05/22/yuketen-loden-shell-cordovan-penny-loafer/#more-654

 

That darker color looks REALLY good--the indoor subtlety/outdoor color would probably feel a lot like Ruby shell. And I just think that darker green looks more tough. Count me in.

 

Now I'm worried that this will turn into another cognac shell debacle, with people on the same MTO hoping for different shades of shell.

Yeah if that's the color (in your picture), unfortunately I have to bow out. And I feel bad about it. I love the idea of shoes that look damn near black indoors but then outdoors you can tell they're different. Like a dark navy suit that looks close to black indoors and blue outdoors.

 

I should have mentioned that before asking to add my name to the list.

post #3200 of 4101
I have some green shell from Rancourt, which is definitely not mistaken for black. They do hand dye it, so it may not be directly comperable, but I think you should expect green shell to show green. Which is fine by me...
post #3201 of 4101
what are the details on this green order?
post #3202 of 4101
Hatch Grain Bring the Pain

Hey guys!

Thanks for bearing with us - as Matt kindly mentioned, the Hatch Grain leather is fully confirmed and on-order. We can do about 50-60 units, so there's lots to spread around. I'm going to build out the items this evening and (hopefully) activate them with pricing tomorrow provided that Carmina gets back to me with the cost.

For the Hatch Grain List, we've got:

1. Four-eye Chukka
2. Greeley Boot
3. Long Wing Blucher

I also spec'd out an Alt Wien "Boot." It's essentially our Steinbeck boot with a punched cap/medallion toe on the front. Here's a brutally quick mockup:



I was thinking to offer this on a Commando sole. This would be a great, tough, Fall/Winter boot.

Shoe Trees

I wanted to ask you guys about shoe trees. To date, we've included the Carmina trees with every MTO project style, but to be up front, it's been problematic. The trees add almost $50 to the cost (I just pass that along, I don't mark them up), and we're having major problems getting enough with each order. The last few times, we've been short shipped, and there's really no way to get backordered trees in any kind of reasonable time frame. I had extras on hand, so we were still able to make good on the trees that were owed, but going forward, I'm concerned that a good portion of these shoes/boots will come without matching trees.

We do private label trees with Woodlore, and I've started stocking the "Epic" twin tube model. It's nice, it's cedar, and IMO it will be just as effective inside your Carmina's. What do you guys think about us including these instead of the Carmina trees. As a result, we can drop the retail price of all these Fall styles by about $40.

Loden Shell Cordovan

I've spoken with Carmina, and we've blocked out a good amount of Loden Shell for the Fall. It's not an exact number, but figure we can do about 20-24 units across 2 or 3 styles. I think that that will be plenty to go around.

In terms of the color, I'll see if I have a pic of one of their samples made up in Loden. It's pretty "green" though. I actually shot this picture of the yukenten penny loafer, and that color is accurate for how the skin comes from Horween:



Carmina will finish it better and add a bit of black burnishing, but it won't be that really powerful dark green like you see in Edward Green and St. Crispins burnished calf. And you'll need to expect a little bit of variance in the exact color tone though - as shell dyeing from Horween is never consistent from batch to batch. It's surely going to be really handsome though. Loden shell makeups are gorgeous. We can get these rolling ASAP.

GREELEY BOOT MAKEUPS

There's a little crossover here with the other points, but I wanted to toss our our Greeley boot concepts so far. In keeping with the leathers discussed above, we'll offer it in:

1. Loden Shell Cordovan (probably with the leather sole, flat welt)

2. Hatch Grain (want to do a flat welt & Danite here?)

3. Black Shell Cordovan (a lot of guys have requested this via PM)

4. Purple calf bottom with Snuff Suede Shaft (a.k.a. the "When Doves Cry" model)

Any other requests? We can also put Navy & Burgundy Shell back into work for this season.
post #3203 of 4101
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Originally Posted by Epaulet View Post

GREELEY BOOT MAKEUPS

There's a little crossover here with the other points, but I wanted to toss our our Greeley boot concepts so far. In keeping with the leathers discussed above, we'll offer it in:

3. Black Shell Cordovan (a lot of guys have requested this via PM)

+1 that would be superb.

post #3204 of 4101
Thread Starter 
Is the Loden green makeup suede, shell, or calf?
post #3205 of 4101
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

Is the Loden green makeup suede, shell, or calf?

It would be shell. Carmina has a green calf, but it's really green and bright. The shell will bring that darker, richer tone that I think everyone's looking for.
post #3206 of 4101
I know you guys plan on making the greely boot in hatchgrain, but would there be enough interest/slots for the austerity wingtip shoe in hatchgrain?

If not, what last are you thinking for the chukka?
post #3207 of 4101
Do you have a pic of what the hatch grain that will be used looks like? I would put in a vote for the Daninite sole for the Greeley and the commando for the Alt Wein boot...not sure if you need the medallion on the toe though...

anyone interested in a hatch grain Anderson boot with a commando sole? I think that would look amazing.
post #3208 of 4101
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Epaulet View Post

It would be shell. Carmina has a green calf, but it's really green and bright. The shell will bring that darker, richer tone that I think everyone's looking for.


Thanks, completely missed your previous post :/
post #3209 of 4101
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Originally Posted by stmaier View Post

Do you have a pic of what the hatch grain that will be used looks like? I would put in a vote for the Daninite sole for the Greeley and the commando for the Alt Wein boot...not sure if you need the medallion on the toe though...

anyone interested in a hatch grain Anderson boot with a commando sole? I think that would look amazing.

Sure, it's a waxy grained leather. More of a "scratch" pattern than scotchgrain:



Love the idea of a Commando sole Jumper!
post #3210 of 4101
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Originally Posted by Epaulet View Post

Sure, it's a waxy grained leather. More of a "scratch" pattern than scotchgrain:



Love the idea of a Commando sole Jumper!

That is absolutely amazing! Can we please some votes for a commando sole jumper!?!
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