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post #2461 of 4103
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Originally Posted by Frank the sheep View Post

Isn't there a boot with punching on the "shaft" (don't know the English term)? Maybe there's a mix up between the two.

I leave that to the people buying the boot, I'm out since the chance of color smile.gif

I think either Steinbeck was the boot that epaulet had on their website
post #2462 of 4103
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Originally Posted by diglett View Post

Looks like we're pretty dead-set on Forest for the Terracotta boot. Just based on comments about the last, we've got six people interested, and a few others who were chatting about the boot a bit earlier in the thread, so we should be good to go.

-Terracotta Lama
-Punching on the toecap but NOT all along the upper
-Forest last
-Leather sole

Sound about right?
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Originally Posted by joiji View Post

Ah, my mistake. The boot doesn't have any punching aside from the toecap anyway, so I'm unsure as to why people were specifying no punching...

I am in punched toecap camp.
Pro: The tumbled texture of the leather + Terracotta color + Punching all go together well. [As opposed to a smooth calf + more sober brown tone + cap toe]

Con: The specs we've settled on are inching this makeup close to the Black Scotchgrain Balmoral (except for the Dainite & Speed Hooks)
post #2463 of 4103
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Originally Posted by Frank the sheep View Post

English is not my native language but I get the impression that the group want to change the existing design.

 

This post is so full of win

post #2464 of 4103
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Originally Posted by thecool85 View Post

 

I voiced my opinion on this earlier, as did Sridhar. I was going to go along with whatever the group wanted because the addition of punching wasn't going to make me miss out on such an awesome boot. For what it's worth though, I disagree with the idea that removing the punching fundamentally alters the nature of the boot. I can't picture a scenario in which I'd wear one boot and not the other. 

My mistake; I didn't mean to suggest that it's a COMPLETELY different boot, but rather that I prefer the aesthetics of the punched toe rather than the cap toe.

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Originally Posted by joiji View Post

 

I don't think people were wanting to. Plus changing to no punching just makes it a cap toe boot.

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by joiji View Post

 

The boot doesn't have any punching aside from the toecap anyway, so I'm unsure as to why people were specifying no punching...

There was a suggestion being tossed around (maybe just within the PM thread a while back) about spreading the punching all around the upper, like the wingtip ankle boots on Epaulet's site.

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Originally Posted by styleophile View Post



I am in punched toecap camp.
Pro: The tumbled texture of the leather + Terracotta color + Punching all go together well. [As opposed to a smooth calf + more sober brown tone + cap toe]

Con: The specs we've settled on are inching this makeup close to the Black Scotchgrain Balmoral (except for the Dainite & Speed Hooks)

Agreed with the pros, but beyond the leather texture, I wouldn't worry about it being too close to the Scotchgrain.

 

-blucher vs bal lacing

-slight texture difference

-reddish brown vs black

-leather sole vs dainite

-7 eyelets vs 10

-all blind eyelets vs 6 blind, 4 speed hook

 

Completely different boot, in my opinion.

post #2465 of 4103

I think Frank brings up a great point. We may be spinning our wheels about something that isn't a possibility. I suppose we should wait on feedback from Mike before we proceed with the discussion. What might be helpful for some, is a mockup of the boot with no punching to get a better idea of what it might look like (although I'm sure we've all seen captoe boots before so maybe not). I've stated my reasons previously for why I'd prefer the captoe with no punching, but it's not so much of a deal breaker to me that it would kill my interest in the boot. 

post #2466 of 4103
Keep the punching...it looks good with the leather...I'm a puncher.
post #2467 of 4103
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Originally Posted by styleophile View Post


I am in punched toecap camp.
Pro: The tumbled texture of the leather + Terracotta color + Punching all go together well. [As opposed to a smooth calf + more sober brown tone + cap toe]

Con: The specs we've settled on are inching this makeup close to the Black Scotchgrain Balmoral (except for the Dainite & Speed Hooks)

I agree with the pros and disagree with the cons for the reasons diglett mentioned. I would add that a captoe blucher's combination of the formal and the informal looks a little off to me in general.

Anyone in favor of adding punching to the side seams? devil.gif
post #2468 of 4103
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Originally Posted by Ambulance Chaser View Post

I agree with the pros and disagree with the cons for the reasons diglett mentioned. I would add that a captoe blucher's combination of the formal and the informal looks a little off to me in general.

Anyone in favor of adding punching to the side seams? devil.gif

N'ah, too similar to the Ruby boot then...
post #2469 of 4103
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Originally Posted by applky View Post

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Originally Posted by Frank the sheep View Post

English is not my native language but I get the impression that the group want to change the existing design.

 

This post is so full of win

Hurr.

post #2470 of 4103

So after thinking about it some more, and seeing the following picture, I've decided to throw my hat in with the punched cap toe folks. This is gonna be an incredible boot.

 

 

post #2471 of 4103

Soooo punched toe, then?

 

Shun the non-believers.

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post #2473 of 4103
Punched toe! Lets do it!
post #2474 of 4103
The Epaulet & Carmina MTO Project

Thanks to everyone who has participated so far! I just want to post a quick recap for any newcomers into the thread (as reading through 2400 posts is a daunting task smile.gif)

Back in December 2011, this thread was generously started by NAMOR as a space to pool ideas on new Carmina makeups. As long as a minimum of 6 customers buy into a specific makeup, we can produce it at the usual retail price rather than the elevated single pair MTO price. And the pricing is actually a bit cheaper than regular retail, as we include a set of premium Carmina shoe trees with every makeup style.

Since those days, we've made about a dozen handsome styles, and we've got plenty more in work. All ideas are welcome, and debating the details of the final product within this friendly community is most of the fun. While I'm happy to provide opinions, feedback, and photoshop mockups, I'm largely just here to facilitate the designs and make the shoes (and boots) of your dreams!

Here's a quick overview of the process:

1) We reach a consensus on a new idea within the thread. Several members express their interest in the makeup.
2) I build out the item on epauletnewyork.com, in our special order section - and post the link here
3) The preorder is generally up for about a week. We ask about 50% up front as a non-refundable deposit. Sales are final as we cut everything to order
4) We place the order with Carmina. Delivery generally takes between 3 and 6 months, depending on the availability of the leather.
5) Once the shoes arrive, we'll bill you for the balance and ship them out immediately.

That's about it! If you're a first time Carmina customer, then we can offer excellent advise on sizing - especially with comparisons to other brands like Alden, Edward Green, and Crockett & Jones.

So, without any further adieu, let me present the newest makeup concept. As requested by the gentlemen on this thread, we are now accepting orders for the Punched Captoe boot in "Lama" tumbled calf leather. This beautiful hide is no longer produced by Carmina's tannery, and 12 units can be made with the supply that remains.


Terracotta Lama Calfskin Punched Captoe Boot Special Order

As always, feel free to post here or PM me with any questions!

And here is a quick gallery of some other "Greatest Hits" that we've produced in concert with all of the guys on this thread....


Burgundy Shell Cordovan Austerity Brogue Balmoral Boot


Ruby Shell Cordovan Punched Captoe


Python Austerity Brogue


Calf & Suede Balmoral Boot


Navy Shell Cordovan Rain Last Double Monk
post #2475 of 4103
one slot taken for terracota lama biggrin.gif
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