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post #1231 of 4101
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Originally Posted by justinkapur View Post

this thread is going to kill my bank account...

+1

I've pre - ordered all 3 of the recent boot makeups, and those brown jodhpur's sounds amazing!
post #1232 of 4101
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Originally Posted by mrbrioni View Post

+1
I've pre - ordered all 3 of the recent boot makeups, and those brown jodhpur's sounds amazing!

I havent followed this thread in its entirety but have you received any of your boots? Would love to see a finished product if you have it yet
post #1233 of 4101
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Originally Posted by Epaulet View Post

It's possible, but not that likely. Because Horween's on a separate continent, they've got pretty large minimums for leather. I was able to wrange the Natural and Brown CXL because we intend to do a bunch of makeups in that. Chamois doesn't have that same wide appeal, so it would be tough to commit to all of the leather required just to do the first run.
That said, it's entirely possible to find an equivalent, similar leather that's tanned in Europe. I like the hand and the feeling of Chamois very much, and I'm sure that they have access to a similar nubuck style leather.

Mike, many thanks for the considerate and detailed response. I only mentioned Horween specifically because I knew you had somehow, as you put it, wrangled the Carmina CXL makeups. Completely understand the difficulties of getting chamois from Horween and would be more than satisfied with a nubuck leather from anywhere. As you said, chamois / nubuck is a great leather. From what I've seen, the Alden chamois makeups look great and seem to sell very well.

Any interest out there in a nubuck makeup?

I'm a big fan of the smooth tobacco chamois, as seen on these Alden longwings.



Would love to see that leather on this Carmina mid-boot. But I would be very open to any makeup, or to using a different leather on the boot pictured below. Wondering also whether it would be possible to do a more rugged toe stitch on these, similar perhaps to your new Carmina loafers?

post #1234 of 4101
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Originally Posted by justinkapur View Post

I havent followed this thread in its entirety but have you received any of your boots? Would love to see a finished product if you have it yet

Not yet.

I believe first order of the black scotch grain and the brown/brown suede is end of October, and the nacy jodhpur's are mid November.

Waiting for them is the worst!
post #1235 of 4101
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Originally Posted by Kashiwa View Post


Mike, many thanks for the considerate and detailed response. I only mentioned Horween specifically because I knew you had somehow, as you put it, wrangled the Carmina CXL makeups. Completely understand the difficulties of getting chamois from Horween and would be more than satisfied with a nubuck leather from anywhere. As you said, chamois / nubuck is a great leather. From what I've seen, the Alden chamois makeups look great and seem to sell very well.
Any interest out there in a nubuck makeup?
I'm a big fan of the smooth tobacco chamois, as seen on these Alden longwings.

Would love to see that leather on this Carmina mid-boot. But I would be very open to any makeup, or to using a different leather on the boot pictured below. Wondering also whether it would be possible to do a more rugged toe stitch on these, similar perhaps to your new Carmina loafers?

 

That Tobacco Chamois would be the perfect leather for a Chukka drool.gif

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A nubuck chukka would be cool. But there are two factors that make me lean in another direction:

1) Most Carmina chukkas (from what I've seen) are not so casual, and the nubuck is unquestionably casual
2) To my eye, the nubuck can be a bit monotonous (not the best term, but best I could muster) for plain toe designs, and tends to look better with some brogueing or mocc stitching etc. I submit a comparison of a chukka and WT boot (note: in reverse chamois) below to make my case:





IMO, the boot I posted above (the Soller lasted mid-height boot) would be similar to a chukka (in height) but offer more support as well.

Thoughts?
post #1237 of 4101
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Originally Posted by mrbrioni View Post

Not yet. I believe first order of the black scotch grain and the brown/brown suede is end of October, and the nacy jodhpur's are mid November. Waiting for them is the worst!

Can't wait for the black scotch grain boot to come in...my birthday present to myself.
post #1238 of 4101
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Originally Posted by Kashiwa View Post

A nubuck chukka would be cool. But there are two factors that make me lean in another direction:
1) Most Carmina chukkas (from what I've seen) are not so casual, and the nubuck is unquestionably casual
2) To my eye, the nubuck can be a bit monotonous (not the best term, but best I could muster) for plain toe designs, and tends to look better with some brogueing or mocc stitching etc. I submit a comparison of a chukka and WT boot (note: in reverse chamois) below to make my case:


IMO, the boot I posted above (the Soller lasted mid-height boot) would be similar to a chukka (in height) but offer more support as well.
Thoughts?

 

I agree with you on your first point insofar as the nubuck being unquestionably casual, but I find the Forest and Robert lasts to lend themselves particularly well to casual shoes. On your second point, while I submit that the second boot on the Soller last is absolutely brilliant (and something I'd love to kop quite frankly) I think the natural variegation of the material shown above keeps the plain toe from being too boring and lends it an interesting aesthetic. 

post #1239 of 4101
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Originally Posted by mrbrioni View Post


Not yet.
I believe first order of the black scotch grain and the brown/brown suede is end of October, and the nacy jodhpur's are mid November.
Waiting for them is the worst!

It's the feeling of having something coming in the mail, only taken to the next level!

post #1240 of 4101
I'm looking forward to the navy shell double monks due late this month/October.
Would have loved to been able to get a navy shell jodhpur boot but not in the cards for awhile due to material shortages.
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Something like this in Black shell on the Rain last with Dainte soles... 

post #1242 of 4101
Hey guys!

Okay, just to check in, here's everything from my side:

1. Bal Boots (Cognac Shell, Black Scotch, Choc/Calf Suede) and Python Austerity Brogues are all fully in work. We'll have a delivery around 9/25 and one around 10/20. I'm working to get them in for the Sept shipment, but if not, they'll absolutely be in the October delivery.

2. Navy Shell Styles (Austerity Brogue and Double Monk) are waiting on leather. Horween said that they have it, but it's not in Carmina's hands yet. We're still looking good for 10/20, as Carmina has promised to bump this production up to the top of the list once the skins come in. But I'll be in contact on that regarding any further delays.

3. Midnight Jodphur boot is fully accepted for production and leather is coming shortly for it. Everything looks good there for timing.

4. Starting tomorrow, we're going to do a site-wide promotion for the Steinbeck wingtip boot. That's an exclusive Epaulet style, and we're going to offer three variants for late November delivery. It will be in the Forest last, so we can order wides, and the three variants were cooked up by both me and Fok (La Guy). They'll be revealed tomorrow! We should be able to offer matching belts as well, and I'll see what other good stuff we can include. That thread will be hosted on MC.

5. With regards to the Jodphur boot, let's do this brown calf/suede makeup. Delivery would be late November, just like the Steinbecks. Would you guys be open to doing it on the Forest (As suggested by diglett)? Quite a few guys who need wide fittings weren't able to get in on the Midnight boot. I'm thinking that doing the main body in calf and the strap in suede will make it a bit better for that late Winter delivery, but it's cool to do it in the reverse too.

6. For the bal shortwing, Betty actually told me that they don't typically use black shell cordovan. They definitely don't have any in stock, and I'm not sure what the lead time for it would be. If we do the calf/scotch combo, are you leaning towards more of a casual bent? Kind of like the Faulkner in a bal shape? We could do it with a flat welt & dainite sole. It would still be very wearable as a dress shoe, but could work well for lousy holiday weather too.

7. YOU WANTED THE BEST, YOU GOT THE BEST!!

THE HOTTEST SHELL CORDOVAN COLOR IN THE WORLD!! RUBY!!!

Yes, after that dramatic intro, I received word today that a few Ruby sides came in and we now have the leather to make about a dozen units of shoes! Let's toss around some ideas and put these dozen into work. If we use the Ruby and a different leather in the same style (in mixed media) we could probably squeeze 16 units out of it too.

And just in case you forgot what Ruby Shell looks like. The Penny loafer is Ruby Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Originally Posted by 0waterbouys View Post

Oh, and P.S. Mike, if you remember that guy in your shop a week or so ago talking about property/moving to NYC your advice was greatly appreciated. I close on a place this week in the West Village thanks to all your advice!!!

Wow, that's awesome! You definitely made the right call - you're going to LOVE that West Village spot. You'll have to rock some karaoke with us after you make the move icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif. Congrats!
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Originally Posted by justinkapur View Post

I havent followed this thread in its entirety but have you received any of your boots? Would love to see a finished product if you have it yet

I'm definitely expecting that we have some of the preordered styles by the end of this month.
post #1243 of 4101
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Originally Posted by Epaulet View Post

Hey guys!

7. YOU WANTED THE BEST, YOU GOT THE BEST!!

THE HOTTEST SHELL CORDOVAN COLOR IN THE WORLD!! RUBY!!!
Yes, after that dramatic intro, I received word today that a few Ruby sides came in and we now have the leather to make about a dozen units of shoes! Let's toss around some ideas and put these dozen into work. If we use the Ruby and a different leather in the same style (in mixed media) we could probably squeeze 16 units out of it too.
And just in case you forgot what Ruby Shell looks like. The Penny loafer is Ruby Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

that ruby shell is amazing. I would say something in a wingtip or NST would be pretty sweet.
post #1244 of 4101
For the Ruby shell, how about a punched captoe oxford or split toe derby? Either sounds great to me.

Mike, intrigued by the mixed media idea, but what did you have in mind? Struggling to think of a good complementary leather for mixed media.

Does Carmina do any type of saddle pattern? That might be cool in Ruby shell.
post #1245 of 4101
Mike, what a killer update! I would love to get the bal boots early, but the October date would still be just fine. The Steinbecks (and matching belts) sound great! (But please post a link here to the MC thread, so we don't have to dig)
 
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Originally Posted by Epaulet View Post

5. With regards to the Jodphur boot, let's do this brown calf/suede makeup. Delivery would be late November, just like the Steinbecks. Would you guys be open to doing it on the Forest (As suggested by diglett)? Quite a few guys who need wide fittings weren't able to get in on the Midnight boot. I'm thinking that doing the main body in calf and the strap in suede will make it a bit better for that late Winter delivery, but it's cool to do it in the reverse too.
 
Yes to everything for the Jodhpur (and thanks for opting for the Forest last)! Either combo sounds great to me.
 
And of course we're all eagerly awaiting the Ruby shoes... What do you guys think: Mix a conservative style with the Ruby color, to balance it out, or go a bit all-around crazy with it? CHRK33's punched captoe oxford suggestion sounds good for the more conservative style, but then we might also be able to do a wholecut or single monk. Here's a nifty pair I found on Carmina's site (not the e-boutique, but the collections section):

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

It sits on the Rain last, which I personally can't get myself to like, but I'm just throwing some ideas out. Also, Mike, Carmina has some spectator-style monks on their site, which could work if you want to split up the Ruby shell. I think they look a bit silly, but maybe others will like them.

 

What do you lads think?

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