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This is probably the best synopsis of the forum I have read in a long time.


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Admire the work gentlemen don't try to repaint it:)
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It's a logical slippery slope for which there is no reasonable answer.

Sorry, I could not help but point out the irony in this sentence. Seeing as "Slippery Slope" is one of the logical fallacies smile.gif

You may now return to your regularly scheduled thread...
post #49 of 58
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The rich man has more money therefore his taste is better than yours. That's true in 99.9% of the cases so stop trying to delude yourself into believing that the poor guy has better taste because it's ridiculous.

And btw, the personal shopper is just a clerk who finds things for you not a style consultant and knows even less about what looks good than the wealthy customer.

 



Urk.

 

Somebody repost the Flusser video. I do believe he was alluding to personal shoppers when talking about certain actors, and then the camera moved back and revealed that his personal shopper was a junkie.

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The rich man has more money therefore his taste is better than yours. That's true in 99.9% of the cases so stop trying to delude yourself into believing that the poor guy has better taste because it's ridiculous.
And btw, the personal shopper is just a clerk who finds things for you not a style consultant and knows even less about what looks good than the wealthy customer.

AuntFlabby, from several posts of yours, I think you should join the PurseForum instead, there are lots more like-minded members there.
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The rich man has more money therefore his taste is better than yours. That's true in 99.9% of the cases so stop trying to delude yourself into believing that the poor guy has better taste because it's ridiculous.
And btw, the personal shopper is just a clerk who finds things for you not a style consultant and knows even less about what looks good than the wealthy customer.
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AuntFlabby, from several posts of yours, I think you should join the PurseForum instead, there are lots more like-minded members there.

+1 onix. I need only turn on the TV for a minute or so to observe evidence to the contrary AuntFlabby. {more Money$} therefore {better Taste} is a logical fallacy. There are whole segments of the fashion industry (and many financially successful companies) focused on selling inferior products to wealthy customers. Walk into any LV in mainland China to see amazingly wealthy people flaunting their extravagant ignorance.... only one of many examples, but I digress. Onix kept it short and sweet. wink.gif
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Urk.

Somebody repost the Flusser video. I do believe he was alluding to personal shoppers when talking about certain actors, and then the camera moved back and revealed that his personal shopper was a junkie.

well.... I mean after a long, stressful day of shopping you don't want to have to call your dealer TOO!
post #53 of 58
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Originally Posted by AuntFlabby View Post

The problem with illogical  and inexperienced boys is that they think like females. Do you know what a generalisation is? The exception does not make the rule. What you see on TV are show biz types not old money and a few nouveau riche Chinese who are not exactly quality experts and likely had parents (or even themselves) walking around in those Mao worker's jackets not too long ago.
The reason that a person who was brought up in an upper class manner always knows more, not only about clothes but about everything, is because he's been surrounded by things since he was a kid and just sort of picked things up by osmosis while you have to learn everything from scratch. It's the difference between someone learning a language as a kid because he was just exposed to it and someone 20 trying to learn a language. After about the age of 12-14 you will always speak the language with an accent and it will be slightly off no matter how perfectly you speak it. So my figure of 99.9% is correct  when it comes to taste and background. There are few exceptions.

Oh, the irony.
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The problem with illogical  and inexperienced boys is that they think like females. Do you know what a generalisation is? The exception does not make the rule. What you see on TV are show biz types not old money and a few nouveau riche Chinese who are not exactly quality experts and likely had parents (or even themselves) walking around in those Mao worker's jackets not too long ago.

The reason that a person who was brought up in an upper class manner always knows more, not only about clothes but about everything, is because he's been surrounded by things since he was a kid and just sort of picked things up by osmosis while you have to learn everything from scratch. It's the difference between someone learning a language as a kid because he was just exposed to it and someone 20 trying to learn a language. After about the age of 12-14 you will always speak the language with an accent and it will be slightly off no matter how perfectly you speak it. So my figure of 99.9% is correct  when it comes to taste and background. There are few exceptions.

 


A privileged background, like money of one's own, is an enabling factor.

It facilitates access, but does not guarantee proficiency or a strong organic interest.

 

-VF

 

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A privileged background, like money of one's own, is an enabling factor.
It facilitates access, but does not guarantee proficiency or a strong organic interest.

-VF

152

"Take dead aim on the rich boys. The one thing they can't buy is backbone."
post #56 of 58
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The problem with illogical  and inexperienced boys is that they think like females. Do you know what a generalisation is? The exception does not make the rule. What you see on TV are show biz types not old money and a few nouveau riche Chinese who are not exactly quality experts and likely had parents (or even themselves) walking around in those Mao worker's jackets not too long ago.
The reason that a person who was brought up in an upper class manner always knows more, not only about clothes but about everything, is because he's been surrounded by things since he was a kid and just sort of picked things up by osmosis while you have to learn everything from scratch. It's the difference between someone learning a language as a kid because he was just exposed to it and someone 20 trying to learn a language. After about the age of 12-14 you will always speak the language with an accent and it will be slightly off no matter how perfectly you speak it. So my figure of 99.9% is correct  when it comes to taste and background. There are few exceptions.
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Oh, the irony.

+1 onix... the example was but one of many... and clearly AuntFlabby you didn't read previous posts. This is not something I watched on TV (the statement of which is so inane as to be irrelevant), but experienced personally. Not only in China, Taiwan, HK, Dubai, London and LA but also in many of the almost 30 countries in which I have lived, worked and visited. The ranks of the uninformed, tasteless rich (nouveau or otherwise) are legion; that this segment comprises only 0.1% of the total is a statistical impossibility.
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Originally Posted by Von Franz View Post

The difference is in each man's sartorial knowledge, passion for clothes, and innate sense of style.

Knowledge is more fundamentally important than an enabling factor such as wealth.

Think of it this way:

Two authors each write a book. 

One is terrible, whereas the other is superbly written.

The terrible book is published because of factors unrelated to its literary value. Maybe the author was already famous for another reason, or maybe the publishing house determined that this book would appeal to preteen girls and sell millions of copies.

The superb book, however, fails to find a widespread audience and is a commercial failure despite a very positive critical reception. Many people cannot understand it or relate to its subject matter, but those who can are blown away by the writer's ability and become loyal fans.

While the author of the second book does not profit financially from his literary endeavors, he is often approached by people who have read his book and congratulated for having written it. He knows that he is a good writer, since by this point he has been lauded by an understanding few whose intellectual ability approaches or surpasses his own.

The author of the first book may have made millions of dollars and have a movie deal on the way, but whether he is aware of it or not, literary snobs deride his work. They hold it to the same standards as they would the second book, and deem it to be of no value to the intelligent reader.


On Style Forum, we are fans of the second author. We're in the minority, but we have high standards for what we enjoy. Many others will not be able to identify with us, and that's fine. It makes some of us appreciate our strong interest all the more.

Although I haven't been a member for long, I've already seen some posts that showcase personal wealth and some which speak of humbler means. With the conspicuous exception of certain status-obsessed egotists whose posts are best appreciated from beyond the fourth wall, I've found this forum to be quite egalitarian in nature. We all just want to develop our own style so that we can look good regardless of how much money we have.

Conversely, many people with lots of money want to use it to avoid doing things they don't have to do. Choosing and learning about clothes is one of those things. Just as the first author doesn't have to worry about his books being well-received so long as they are successful, some wealthy individuals may prefer to go to one fairly reliable shop and buy three of everything the sales associate recommends to them. They'll have the clothes and the means to buy more, but without knowledge or passion they will not be truly well-dressed.

In a nutshell, it's because we know more and care about learning all that we can. Money is irrelevant as long as there is enough to support a reasonable outlet through which to express that knowledge and enthusiasm.

Oh, yeah, and also "sprezz," I guess.

-VF






I'm not reading all of this shit.
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I'm not reading all of this shit.

One of the better long reads in SF though. Truth.
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