Hello, I have been lurking as guest for a while but wanted to get into this discussion.
Quote Â HRHAndrew you're an ass. Why do you feel you need to be condescending and say no one will respond and try to be so big and smart with different Armani labels. Â I am sure the rest of you guys aren't all jerks like this guy.
I just wanted to assure all of you that I will not be like "classyfreddy" and respect this board. Â Plus, I thought it was pretty bold of HRHAndrew to make a list knowing that it will be picked apart. Â It was a pretty good list.
Super Top Level- (Reading from your list order) Attolini, Oxxford, Kiton Top Level- Sartoria(Attolini), Barbera, Pal Zileri(sartorial), Isaia, Brioni, Zegna(Napoli) 2nd Level- Boss Baldessarini, Canali Exclusive, Cerruti (1881, not Nina), RL Purple Label, Belvest 3rd Level- Armani Classico, Canali, Zegna, Corneliani 4th Level- Armani Le Coll., Polo RL, Pal Zileri(Gruppo) 5th Level and below- Armani Mani, Hugo Boss, Canali Proposta, Pal Zileri Pull, RL others, Zegna Soft.
I am assuming a couple typos; in the top level "Sartoria(attolini)" probably means (Sartorio), and for "Pal Zileri(sartorial)", he is probably indicating the www.sartoriale.it
line. Making those assumptions, here are my comments: I think I agree with the top three as being a cut above the rest, and can understand why HRH wanted to separate them. Although I think that the difference between "Super Top Level" and "Top Level" is not as great as it is between the other levels. The Second Level is where I think you will get most of us disagreeing. Â I have never been able to get a firm grasp on who makes Baldessarini. Some of, but sadly not all of their work is truly first-rate - that is a hard one to rank. Â I think Canali Exclusive is a very solid choice as is Purple Label(St. A's) and Belvest.
My two cents on the list: Everyone is undervaluing Belvest. Â
Glad to see someone else agrees with me on Belvest. A lot of discussion on 1881, here is what I have heard but am unable to confirm. I do not want to claim this to be gospel, but my source is often very reliable. Â He told me about RLPL moving to St. A's long before I heard it anywhere else. Â If anyone knows the truth, please let us know. Â 1881 has three levels, and you can tell by the labels inside. Top level 1881, is made by Brioni with Cerruti providing the fabric to use. Â I thought it was a very strange arrangement, but he swears it to be true and I have to reason to not accept it. Â Maybe HRH came into contact with Brioni made 1881's. I think HRH has Corneliani one level to high. I believe it is on par with Armani Coll., Zegna. Â I think Pal Zileri is a bit high as well. As it has been confirmed multiple times, I am also saddened by the Isaia development.
Does anyone have specific information on the Barbera fused line? Â It would be nice to know what to be on the look out for.
I have never heard that one before. Any confirmation?
It can be a slippery slope. Â
Amen brother. HRHAndrew thanks for the list it proved to be very interesting. Â It was brave of you to put all your opinions out there knowing there is probably not a member of this forum who would agree with you top to bottom. Â Freddy's response was stupid. Your fast response of
Freddy, I apologize if I offended you, that was not my intent. -Andy
Shows you are the "classy one" I am now going back to lurking mode. Â Maybe I will pop out again when a thread has 50 plus responses. Rgs, Dan