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I should add before anyone jumps on me for evening mentioning 7L in the same breath as C&J, that I am not making any quality comparisons between them!
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I think we all agree SL is not at the level of Berluti, Corthay or Lobb. The question that would be more informative is, is it a good shoe for the price?
If I could, I'd walk around on boots made by an 80-year old craftsman in a monumental workshop, made from the skin of organic and contented calfs that I would have hand-selected under the guise of the apple-cheeked farmer.
I don't know what to answer here - SL are €250, and the pair of Carminas I own was €218 - sure, they were on sale, but the quality is ten times better...
I don't know what to answer here - SL are €250, and the pair of Carminas I own was €218 - sure, they were on sale, but the quality is ten times better...
My current opinion is that I would only consider Septieme L. for the finishes.
Has anyone ever seen a disection of a Carmina? I know they have a good reputation in general - and expect to have two pairs in hand within a week or so. But wonder what is known about the internal construction.
As an example I have always liked the John Lobb Becketts (8000 last)... ...it probably has the same internals as the SL and all other RTW shoes. If you look at the depiedencap site a little more they have dissected many shoes including John Lobb . The JL has synthetic stiffenners and other obvious shortcuts just like entry level shoes (not to mention gemming which we all know)
Carminas are now (at least in Europe) about a third more expensive as SL, and, at least for the moment, don't have sale on their online store (do they ever?). If I could get Carminas for those prices, I'd get them in a heartbeat.
I'm seeing it in a dynamic context: SL's are great to build a basic collection with which one looks quite good, and which will last long enough to make it possible to save up for better.
My current opinion is that I would only consider Septieme L. for the finishes. As I know of no other manufacturer who offers the similar option of totally custom finish choices in this price range - or in any price range near it.
The point is that I don't know if SL's are really worth €250... being low on cash, I'd rather have one pair of Carminas, C&J's, Allen Edmonds... than two pairs of SL's. From the outside, their quality just seems to be much better. But I don't really know anything about the internal construction of the higher end brands - that's why I said I don't really know what to answer...