Spoo does 4IH so well they almost look like Windsor knots.
I know I am in the minority but 4IH is the knot of choice for bagboys at the grocer and of the masses of men who are FORCED to wear suits but hate them. I just can not find any love for the knot. I guess I find the less than symmetric knot on an impeccable suit and shirt to strike me like a odd colored fender on a Ferrari. I don't see that and think, "impeccable automotive craftsmanship and look they screwed up one fender for a bit of sprezzatura". I think, "what a fine crafting of an automobile but it is a shame they don't know how to paint".